Paul has endorsed Baldwin

[Nirvikalpa]

Congrats, Chuck!

 

[Bman]

I'll believe this when I here it from Ron Pauls mouth. Other than that if he is that's cool. And congratulations to you Baldwin supports if it is indeed true.

I wish I could be their with you, but I won't be. I'll keep my place fighting for rights of us non-christians.

 

[devil21]

I'll believe this when I here it from Ron Pauls mouth. Other than that if he is that's cool. And congratulations to you Baldwin supports if it is indeed true.

I wish I could be their with you, but I won't be. I'll keep my place fighting for rights of us non-christians.

Where on Baldwin's website do you see anything regarding his presidential policies revolving around his religion? If the mere existence of religious faith is an indicator of candidate's policy, then Ron Paul himself should not be president because he is a devout christian. Im not religious either but just because the guy has religious faith doesn't mean he would only fight for the rights of christians. That looks like sour grapes.

 

[mport1]

Where on Baldwin's website do you see anything regarding his presidential policies revolving around his religion? If the mere existence of religious faith is an indicator of candidate's policy, then Ron Paul himself should not be president because he is a devout christian. Im not religious either but just because the guy has religious faith doesn't mean he would only fight for the rights of christians. That looks like sour grapes.

The Constitution Party gratefully acknowledges the blessing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of these United States. We hereby appeal to Him for mercy, aid, comfort, guidance and the protection of His Providence as we work to restore and preserve these United States.

This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutional boundaries.

This is from the Constitution Party's platform. I could never vote for anybody running for this party.

 

[Aldanga]

This is from the Constitution Party's platform. I could never vote for anybody running for this party.

Then I would surmise that you couldn't vote for any Republican candidates because their party platform is horrible.

 

[Bman]

Where on Baldwin's website do you see anything regarding his presidential policies revolving around his religion? If the mere existence of religious faith is an indicator of candidate's policy, then Ron Paul himself should not be president because he is a devout christian. Im not religious either but just because the guy has religious faith doesn't mean he would only fight for the rights of christians. That looks like sour grapes.

Well the stuff that keeps me from Baldwin is not on his sight. Now of course the amount of times the guy makes it obvious that he is christian on his website is obviously alarming but I can let that go. Here's what I can't.

His stance on Drugs, Porn, Gays... and well heck anything that is strictly morality. Morality should be a subject that education handles not the law. If someone wants to snort 10 lines of cocaine, then pay someone, possibly of the same sex, to get them off by all means let the person alone. These aren't crimes. These are disagreements on personal behaviour.

 

[ArrestPoliticians]

Well the stuff that keeps me from Baldwin is not on his sight. Now of course the amount of times the guy makes it obvious that he is christian on his website is obviously alarming but I can let that go. Here's what I can't.

His stance on Drugs, Porn, Gays... and well heck anything that is strictly morality. Morality should be a subject that education handles not the law. If someone wants to snort 10 lines of cocaine, then pay someone, possibly of the same sex, to get them off by all means let the person alone. These aren't crimes. These are disagreements on personal behaviour.

Then don't vote.

If Nader was the last choice I would vote for him even though he is a socialist.

Baldwin '08

 

[G-Wohl]

Well the stuff that keeps me from Baldwin is not on his sight. Now of course the amount of times the guy makes it obvious that he is christian on his website is obviously alarming but I can let that go. Here's what I can't.

His stance on Drugs, Porn, Gays... and well heck anything that is strictly morality. Morality should be a subject that education handles not the law. If someone wants to snort 10 lines of cocaine, then pay someone, possibly of the same sex, to get them off by all means let the person alone. These aren't crimes. These are disagreements on personal behaviour.

100% correct. And we're not alone here. A lot of people will not fall for Baldwin's religious zeal and ass-backwards view of libertarianism.

 

[RickyJ]

100% correct. And we're not alone here. A lot of people will not fall for Baldwin's religious zeal and ass-backwards view of libertarianism.

Paul endorsed him! Do you think he was fooled? Come on! Baldwin is closer to Ron Paul's views than even Bob Barr is.

 

[bluto20]

Ron Paul also tells you to jump off a cliff... therefore...?

therefore i'd jump off a cliff.... duh!

go chuck baldwin...if we all got behind just one 3rd party candidate, why not the one in the Constitutional Party? The guy who Ron, himself, endorsed!

 

[devil21]

Well the stuff that keeps me from Baldwin is not on his sight. Now of course the amount of times the guy makes it obvious that he is christian on his website is obviously alarming but I can let that go. Here's what I can't.

His stance on Drugs, Porn, Gays... and well heck anything that is strictly morality. Morality should be a subject that education handles not the law. If someone wants to snort 10 lines of cocaine, then pay someone, possibly of the same sex, to get them off by all means let the person alone. These aren't crimes. These are disagreements on personal behaviour.

Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment. Do you suppose Ron Paul supports drugs, porn and gays? I think not. He supports someone's right to partake of those things but he doesn't personally support them. The Republican party does not support drugs, porn and gays either and RP is a member of that party. How is that any different than Baldwin and the Constitution Party?

In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I will assume that Baldwin (we are voting for a candidate, not a party, remember) is of the same personal liberty mindset of RP. You can support personal liberties while not supporting the specific actions. Baldwin supports RP's views nearly 100% and that's what matters at the end of the day when casting your vote.

Btw, the Constitution Party is correct. The US *was* founded on christian principles and the vast majority of Americans during that period were deeply religious. Im not clear what they mean by "restoring jurisprudence to Biblical foundations" though. I hope not public stonings lol. But the last sentence about limiting the government to constitutional boundaries is what matters the most to me. If that were attained, most of the country's ills would be fixed and that would restore state's rights so the Feds couldn't legislate religious morality. We can fight any religious inroads as they arise. We've already been doing that against the Republican party for the last 8 years anyway...

 

[porcupine]

For the first time I regret voting for Ron Paul and donating hundreds of my hard-earned dollars to him.

Shiiiiiiiiiit.

Reading the above post brings up the question...are all Ron Paul supporters just whiners incapable of being happy?

 

[porcupine]

So let me get this straight. Ron Paul says to vote for Nader or McKinney (two nutso leftists) and everyone thinks it's the greatest press conference they've ever seen. Paul endorses the most libertarian of the 4 (at least the SECOND most libertarian) and everyone starts whining and going back on everything they've ever said about Ron Paul... as if voting for one third party will make a dime's bit of difference from voting for the other.

I don't get it.

 

[Dorfsmith]

This movement is much bigger than Ron Paul and I honestly don't care who he's choosing to support at this point. Yes, I'll probably be writing Chuck Baldwin in because Barr completely pissed me off and I can't vote for the leftist third party candidates. BUT, I'm not going to go around trying to get people to vote for Baldwin. I'm going to keep encouraging people to check into all the third party candidates on their ballot and make their own choice.

Please don't turn these forums into Chuck Baldwin forums.

 

[Paulitical Correctness]

I don't get it.

What would become of the RPF if there was nothing to bitch about?

The way I see it, folks need'a stop nitpickin' about the election. Main goal should be tearing down the two party system - who cares if it's through a "socialist", "theocrat", or "CIA mole" (IE - it's just a protest vote..) The beef I've seen people have with Baldwin is some nonsense about porn and drugs? I personally haven't looked into it, but with the country fixin' to implode shouldn't porn n' drugs be at the bottom of the list of things to worry about?

Also, everyone sees Ron as the glorious perfect candidate whom they agree with on all issues - maybe that's because they didn't care about politics pre-Paul and have now adopted all of his issues as their own.

Branch out and let go of your Ron Paul infatuation!

 

[Brassmouth]

This movement is much bigger than Ron Paul and I honestly don't care who he's choosing to support at this point. Yes, I'll probably be writing Chuck Baldwin in because Barr completely pissed me off and I can't vote for the leftist third party candidates. BUT, I'm not going to go around trying to get people to vote for Baldwin. I'm going to keep encouraging people to check into all the third party candidates on their ballot and make their own choice.

Please don't turn these forums into Chuck Baldwin forums.

I agree with your last statement. However if you're going to write someone in why not write in Dr. Paul himself? It'll just get thrown out anyway.

 

[tpreitzel]

This movement is much bigger than Ron Paul and I honestly don't care who he's choosing to support at this point. Yes, I'll probably be writing Chuck Baldwin in because Barr completely pissed me off and I can't vote for the leftist third party candidates. BUT, I'm not going to go around trying to get people to vote for Baldwin. I'm going to keep encouraging people to check into all the third party candidates on their ballot and make their own choice.

Please don't turn these forums into Chuck Baldwin forums.

x2

 

[tpreitzel]

What would become of the RPF if there was nothing to bitch about?

The way I see it, folks need'a stop nitpickin' about the election. Main goal should be tearing down the two party system - who cares if it's through a "socialist", "theocrat", or "CIA mole" (IE - it's just a protest vote..) The beef I've seen people have with Baldwin is some nonsense about porn and drugs? I personally haven't looked into it, but with the country fixin' to implode shouldn't porn n' drugs be at the bottom of the list of things to worry about?

Also, everyone sees Ron as the glorious perfect candidate whom they agree with on all issues - maybe that's because they didn't care about politics pre-Paul and have now adopted all of his issues as their own.

Branch out and let go of your Ron Paul infatuation!

x2 ... I've just agreed with two people in a row which is an encouraging sign that we'll get past the latest wrinkle... At the very least, we certainly need to reform those major parties.

 

[Dorfsmith]

I agree with your last statement. However if you're going to write someone in why not write in Dr. Paul himself? It'll just get thrown out anyway.

No, Chuck Baldwin is an eligible write in in Arizona. Ron Paul is not.

 

[Brassmouth]

No, Chuck Baldwin is an eligible write in in Arizona. Ron Paul is not.

Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up. :o