Paul has a novel idea for his campaign leftovers

H Roark said:
I think the fact that there is 4 million left in the bank shows you how inept the campaign was. If this publisher idea WERE to be true, it would just add insult to injury. I sure as hell will have second thoughts contributing next time if I know its not going to be spent trying to win the race in the first place. The least Ron Paul could do is fund his Liberty PAC, which by the looks of his website is nowhere right now! I am sick of all this education, the knowledge is out there and the ones who seek it have found it already. I'm starting to think that Ron Paul relishes being the underdog.
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*gasp* That is the talk of tReason, as called by our fellow Paultards!
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Stay local, educate locally through aggressive means (leaving magazines about, starting up an "info booth" at fairs, flea markets etc., becoming a teacher or even a substitute), and then go for LOCAL offices. Slow and steady wins the race. We can't expect to just chuck a bunch of info into cyberspace and say "It's out there, just go look!" because people aren't interested - they don't want to waste their time on "whack-job philosophy" and Racist/Anarchist/Heartless Retards from Teh Interwebz. We need to bring the information to them on OUR time.

Edit: Why are line breaks via "enter" key no longer registering when I save a post???
 
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this blows

i was under this naive impression that Campaign money was for exactly that, a campaign, silly me:mad:
 
Because Jesse Benton said it.

Benton said options include supporting like-minded candidates through Paul's Liberty PAC; donating leftover money to Paul's FREE Foundation, the 501(c)3 organization that publishes his newsletter; trying to influence public policy through a 501(c)4 nonprofit group; or creating "something inventive and entrepreneurial" like a for-profit corporation to produce publications.
 
mdh said:
Because Jesse Benton said it.

Benton said options include supporting like-minded candidates through Paul's Liberty PAC; donating leftover money to Paul's FREE Foundation, the 501(c)3 organization that publishes his newsletter; trying to influence public policy through a 501(c)4 nonprofit group; or creating "something inventive and entrepreneurial" like a for-profit corporation to produce publications.
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Benton has a history of diarrhea of the mouth, that sounds like unsanctioned random speculation to me. I mean, seriously guys, where have you been the last 12 months? Benton always goes off on random tangents that turn out to be meaningless. He said something stupid that hasn't a snowballs chance in hell of making it past Ron Paul, and Fox News launched at what they saw as an opportunity to demonize Ron Paul.

I won't believe a word of it until and unless I hear it straight from the horses mouth. And I DON'T have a 'fanboy' complex. I just have a decent memory when it comes to Jesse Benton.
 
GunnyFreedom said:
Benton has a history of diarrhea of the mouth, that sounds like unsanctioned random speculation to me. I mean, seriously guys, where have you been the last 12 months? Benton always goes off on random tangents that turn out to be meaningless. He said something stupid that hasn't a snowballs chance in hell of making it past Ron Paul, and Fox News launched at what they saw as an opportunity to demonize Ron Paul.

I won't believe a word of it until and unless I hear it straight from the horses mouth. And I DON'T have a 'fanboy' complex. I just have a decent memory when it comes to Jesse Benton.
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If Benton is such a loose cannon, how come he hasn't been fired? This is a damned political campaign, every word should be carefully chosen and dissected.
 
I trust Ron with the donations. He knows what he's doing.
He is still campaigning (spoke at the Nevada caucus, Montana, etc).

This is an information war that won't be won by purchasing 30 second sound bites on the MSM.
 
A publishing company sounds very good; it sounds like something potentially offering a stable source of ideas.
 
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First off, I HATE this idea. I hate it hate it hate it. Give it to the grassroots. Or at least take some tips from the grassroots and advertise advertise advertise. Does he want to get the message out? Why not try to sway VOTERS not people already involved in the R3VOlution? By turning our hard-earned money into a business? Get the message out to the non-book reading, American Idol watching average Joes? I hate this. I know I didn't give him my money to start a business. I gave it to him to try to become the President of the United States of America for crying out loud. I really hope this isn't true. Otherwise we are all the biggest suckers ever.
RonPaulFever said:
Folks have been asking these same questions for months. And the answer is simple: Ron Paul has no desire to be President. Face this fact and everything the "campaign" has done makes sense.
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“I’m a real candidate, but I try to keep everybody living in the real world,” Ron Paul said in an interview, alluding to the exuberance of his supporters.
 
By turning our hard-earned money into a business? Get the message out to the non-book reading, American Idol watching average Joes? I hate this.
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To be honest, I don't think this "revolution" is going to happen if you are ok with allowing the average moron to continue being an average, non-literate moron. A peaceful revolution of ideas, as I see it, cannot succeed by pandering to Bernie Potbelly whose hands are too messy from Cheese Puffs to flip through a book that could save him, his family, and his country.
 
Unfortunately, as small as the book is, the majority of people don't want to read. Those who are reading, are usually more "informed/awake" and intelligent, as they are probably using their time reading, rather then watching TV...besides, the number of readers in this country is something like 10-20% at best.

The fact is, we cannot get the contingency we need by just simply publishing books, But on the other hand, a publishing company would be a good investment for Dr.Paul and the movement. That being said, we shouldn't take food from our tables and throw it in the fire for fuel, when you got another source of fuel thats about to be ready for harvest.

The book will generate quite enough money to start a publishing operation.
 
I also wouldn't be surprised if this story was fabricated either.

Ron's response to a third party run has always been, Ive raised millions of dollars as a Republican, and have always been part of the GOP...etc...so what would people think if I left for a third party?

I doubt he would take our money and split.
 
Speaking as a shareholder....

mdh said:
It comes back to Occum's Razor (never attribute to malice that which is just as easily attributable to incompetence.)
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I thought the quote was: "Never attribute to malice what ignorance can explain"?

Be that as it may, I don't believe this silly idea really emanated from Dr. Paul. For one, the campaign isn't over. Oddly enough, I think most of us here strongly believe that Ron Paul's campaign contributions should be spent on his presidential campaign.

However, if a private, for-profit enterprise is to be purchased with "our" campaign contributions, we "contributors, should then be the corporation's shareholders. In this respect, this suggestion would fulfil the basic tenet of what I think should rightfully be done with any left-over campaign funds -- given back to the contributors in some form or fashion.

And speaking as a shareholder of this new, for-profit corporation, I would not authorize the publishing of any information obtained by the RonPaul Campaign to any third-party without the explicit knowledge and permission of its contributor, period.


joe
 
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sophocles07 said:
To be honest, I don't think this "revolution" is going to happen if you are ok with allowing the average moron to continue being an average, non-literate moron. A peaceful revolution of ideas, as I see it, cannot succeed by pandering to Bernie Potbelly whose hands are too messy from Cheese Puffs to flip through a book that could save him, his family, and his country.
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I just heard a statistic today that 53% of Americans haven't read a book in the last year. If the movement is going to continue we are going to need to meet average Joes where they are and wake them up enough to become literate again. Printing books for the thinkers to read is a wonderful thing, but we are in the minority now and must be prepared to use whatever means necessary to remind people what liberty and freedom mean. Selling books to people who don't read isn't going to work.
 
LittleLightShining said:
I just heard a statistic today that 53% of Americans haven't read a book in the last year. If the movement is going to continue we are going to need to meet average Joes where they are and wake them up enough to become literate again. Printing books for the thinkers to read is a wonderful thing, but we are in the minority now and must be prepared to use whatever means necessary to remind people what liberty and freedom mean. Selling books to people who don't read isn't going to work.
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I'd like to see the age breakdown of that statistic.

The people who truly don't read are hopeless anyway.

The younger generation is already mostly aware of Ron Paul and they are probably a large # of those 53%.

It's the 40-60 year olds that still read but get their news from 3 letter networks and are in positions of power that never heard of Ron Paul that this book may enlighten. Send it to your parents and grandparents!!

A few converts from established middle-aged people with vast tangible social networks is just as helpful to the cause as hundreds of 20 and 30 year old techies who don't really have much social influence or as much credibility as their elders
 
I just heard a statistic today that 53% of Americans haven't read a book in the last year. If the movement is going to continue we are going to need to meet average Joes where they are and wake them up enough to become literate again. Printing books for the thinkers to read is a wonderful thing, but we are in the minority now and must be prepared to use whatever means necessary to remind people what liberty and freedom mean. Selling books to people who don't read isn't going to work.
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I just hate having to play down to people. I still don’t think founding some sort of alternative publishing is that bad of an idea, wherever the money comes from. My feeling to some degree is that as long as one has to coerce people into liberty--what THEY'LL get out of it, instead of a bigger picture of social and economic justice--through signs, slogans, and all of that, the thing you are aiming for by the way gets somewhat lacerated.
 
A "PEOPLES LEGAL CLEARING HOUSE"

Ron Paul's idea of using his campaign funds to create a publishing company could turn out to be a great equalizer in disseminating political power. If we utilize commerce in a unique way to further our role in participatory democracy.

It would be in the interest of liberty in this country if we could make this publishing venture historic. I was thinking for quite some time about having Ron Paul publish his proposed House Resolutions in order to test the market support for these laws. And then use the proceeds from each respective published resolution to fund the needed political groundwork to make these resolutions a reality.

If you like this concept Contact Ron Paul and ask if this publishing venture can be used for a historic "Peoples Legal Clearing House" giving the right to propose and support law back to We the People.


Are we going to continue our indentured servitude to the corporate sposored laws?

Instead we could compile a legal library of Freedom and Liberty centered laws on our book shelves at the same time funding and popularizing these laws instead of just letting them fall by the wayside. This could be a tribute to taking action not just complaining and perseverating about the current legal tyrany we are bogged down in
 
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