Paul campaign to unleash the dogs of war in the form of TV buys.

right I am confused. I heard 8million left. SO, what happend to ALL THAT MONEY!!! If they are NOW buying ads - then he will have MUCH LESS THAN 8 million... where did over 15million go? And we aren't even talking about carry over from the previous quarters. I don't know. That sounds like alot of wasted money.

Also, keep in mind that the campaign also spent money in Nevada (I heard lots of radio ads on at least 3 different stations in Las Vegas) and RP got a lot of delegates based my observations.
 
I'm surprised at Xar, you're slippin dude... Have some faith in Dr. P brother
 
Our primary is later than some but we have more delegates than all other states but CA and our delegate process is fairly open. It's not an unbound caucus but it's not a predefined slate either.

We also have people here very concerned about life, the border, the TTC, etc. Once we navigate the neocon fearmongering around the war, TX becomes a lock for Paul.

I am not saying that TEXAS is unimportant... I am in an after-SDT state myself (But MID February just 2 weeks after SDT -- and we're a pretty good sized delegate state too I might add -- we have 40 -- more than Nevada OR Louisiana BTW -- but we get NOTHING from the campaign other than demands for donations -- we don't even get an office or a state "coordinator" here!)


And my point is a simple one:

A man who tells me he doesn't have enough money to pay for his breakfast...
Has NO BUSINESS putting a down-payment on his after-dinner dessert.

The statement DIRECTLY FROM today's campaign email letter (over Ron's name) said:

" We need, frankly $5 million by February 5 to run more TV and radio ads in the Super Tuesday states. "

Which in my metaphor is "breakfast" -- so if the campaign needs more money for ADS on Super Tuesday -- ONE week from now -- then why are they buying ADS for a state that has a primary that is still 6 weeks away???

(Could it coincidentally have anything to do with the fact that it is a state he is also running for Congress in? Or one where his Congressional Campaign Committee Chairperson is the same as the person who runs his Texas State PRes. Campaign office? And who was recently given a new title of "National Media Director" for the Presidential Campaign? Something smells in Denmark, and it ain't the fish.)

Sorry I just call them as I see them... I am vigilant, and hate duplicity ANYWHERE I find it.
I'm not easily hoodwinked -- and I don't even let my best friend blow smoke up my backside.


MOTTOS:
1) Trust but Verify! -- Ronald Reagan
2) Whack 'em upside the head when they LIE! -- WLM Underhill
 
Imagine he's only spent 2.5 million thus far on ads. All the other monies were placed on future ad spots.

There was also a lot spent on radio ads and mail outs and setting up offices in a lot of these states. These expenses do add up. We need to continue to contribute.
 
Yep, the grassroots support in terms of the offices cost money as well. But my guess is that it appears that a decent chunk of that 10-Mil or so was "spent" in ad buys in several of the Super Tues. states and beyond.

The media was/is focused on the primary of the day, the horserace, but didn't think to follow the money.

Could turn out to be brilliant. Very, very shrewd.

Plus, there is another factor in this as well. I would guess that Romney aside, most all the others have been spending their money in do or die fashion from primary to primary.

That leaves RP with the potential of getting premium ad spots and crowding out others. Plus, we BECOME the media while they fight for precious, free, air time.

We earn our air time based on the buy ins possibly. Icing on the cake. Coupled with the grassroots support, it could be a powerful combo.
 
Update to that post above:

It is comming accross the Biz wires tonight ...

They are running ads in Minnesota, Tennessee, Texas, and Arkansas that we know of to this point.

A lot of caucus states seem to be targeted pretty hard as well ... Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, etc. I know RP has campaingned in Maine, but i don't know about ad buys though.

It is standard practice ... campaign 101 ... that one buys ad time stacked up in reverse from election day. There is sill 9-10 days from Feb 5.

That's a lot of pennies!
 
Plus, we BECOME the media while they fight for precious, free, air time.

We earn our air time based on the buy ins possibly.

Its a nice theory... and one that would have a much better chance of being true IF the campaign hires an EXPERT PUBLIC/MEDIA RELATIONS person. (Which should have been done MONTHS AGO... It would be better to spend $1M on a solid PR firm than $5M on more ads.)


And now that the number of candidates is dropping significantly, the "fight" over that free airtime will be much lower -- indeed, the press will begin to allocate it more "fairly" (but only to those candidates who have PR people "schmoozing" them!!! The problem with the MSM is not "simply" a media blackout -- that is a "victim mentality" that we AND THE CAMPAIGN need to get rid of ASAP -- the problem is that unless we RESPECT the media, they will not respect our candidate... Tit For Tat!)


Because you CANNOT overpower "free" airtime with advertising. And these days with all of the talk-shows, newsie-type shows, etc... the "free" airtime is hardly scarce enough to be "precious" in terms of limitations -- it is "precious" indeed in that it is worth MILLIONS...

Consider the way that TV works. 10 minutes of Advertising pays for the full hour of programming.

So even if YOU buy 1/2 of the ads on a channel, and your opponent gets interviewed for 1/2 hour on the same channel... you just paid thousands of dollars for 5 minutes of ads, and your opponent got 25 minutes -- FIVE times the airtime -- for FREE.

A campaign must never, EVER underestimate the power of good "free" press attention -- and THAT MEANS PAYING ATTENTION *TO* the press themselves... making them feel WELCOME as part of your campaign (and NOT whining and complaining about them all the time!)
 
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Sure, but if you can earn the attention of the free air time at the right time even better.

Think about it, the other's bore everyone to tears back and forth with the he said she said crap, then RP captures the attention right before Super Tuesday, plus you saturate it with constant ads and grassroots boots on the ground.

Plus, I think the way they seem to be going about it makes sense.

We could never rise above in terms of media attention with all these guys who are well known spending a gazillion dollars fighting each other in places like South Carolina and Florida. Rp is goind after a lot of the delegate-rich caucus states that have had a lower overall turnout. Minnesota, Washington, Maine, Colorado.

We've already got second in Navada and maybe first in LA if they could take thier shoes off to count to 21.

Now, some of these guys are running on fumes.
 
Just heard my 1st radio ad for Ron last night in Buffalo, NY. Also our campaign coordinator got a lot of signs, slim jims, etc. The Buffalo area is covered with Ron Paul signs, and has been for a while. Funny considering Rudy, and Hillary are from NY.
I work at a UAW shop, and a lot of guys like Ron. They do not like HILLARY AT ALL!! Not much more support for Barack either.
 
the campaign needs more money for ADS on Super Tuesday -- ONE week from now -- then why are they buying ADS for a state that has a primary that is still 6 weeks away???

(Could it coincidentally have anything to do with the fact that it is a state he is also running for Congress in? Or one where his Congressional Campaign Committee Chairperson is the same as the person who runs his Texas State PRes. Campaign office? And who was recently given a new title of "National Media Director" for the Presidential Campaign? Something smells in Denmark, and it ain't the fish.)

This is about winning in later states when 1. There won't be a clear front-runner and 2. Huckabee/Giuliani might drop out. This leaves Romney, McCain, and Paul. Now look at that: two Northerners, one Southerner. We've known from the beginning Huckabee takes a lot of our potential support, and we even see a bunch of former Thompson supporters, which tells me something that absolutely baffled me: the war wasn't Thompson supporters' biggest issue, taxes and American values were, and they thought Thompson was better than Paul on these issues (no offense to former Thompson supporters, I just strongly disagree on this; and it doesn't help that Fred was so condescending when Paul was giving the only intelligent statements on the economy). If this domestic focus-first philosophy also holds true for Huckabee, we should see a ton of their supporters in our camp; lol if only Paul would remember to say he'd abolish the IRS.

So you've got Paul as the only Southern candidate out of three total, no front-runner, and the majority of states still to go after Super Tuesday. Oh yeah, and the recession. When I first heard this logic on the forums I slapped myself and wished Paul spent more money on these states. Just spend enough to be alive in the race in a week Paul, just one more week.

Disclaimer: I've been optimistic before.
 
What I still find funny is people still thinking that Ron Paul doesn't have a long term strategy for all of this.

With or without wins we WILL be in the general election, we are going LONG TERM and no SINGLE STATE or SINGLE DATE is going to collapse this campaign.

We need to focus on the big picture and realize that WE WILL BE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION so lets get him the money, supporters and as much effort that we can give him.

Too many people came into this OVERLY excited and now can only go down from there. Stop getting overly excited and stick to the plan. This is a long term battle and I always laugh when I see people giving up so quickly due to a single state or a few states giving rp low results.

WAKE UP PEOPLE - research the delegates and why we will still get the white house under control in the end whether we win the super tuesday states or not.

The best thing to do is to not get overly excited or overly depressed over the day to day poll results and bad publicity or good publicity. Just continue doing the footwork that ron paul has told us needs to get done.

9ui1ian1 will be dropping out
huckster will be dropping out

It will be one of these two scenarios below

Ron Paul vs. Clinton = President Ron Paul

or

Ron Paul vs. Mittens Romney vs. Clinton = President Ron Paul


the other candidates are feeding into the msm and thinking that they really are telling the nation which states matter, which votes matter and I think many Americans are starting to wake up and realize that their vote does count.

keep up a stead fight, dont get disappointed with day to day issues and think LONG TERM.


I'm not too worried, but I'd like to see more than 5-6% in Florida.

McCain can easily be beat, just look on the "Dirt on McCain threads". He's also broke.

Romney will be tougher, but I doubt the majority of Republicans will vote for a Mormon vs a true Christian.

And of course Rudy is dead.
 
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