Paul Campaign Suing Maker of Huntsman False-Flag Video!!

[time4change]

What about the Huffington Post's report that when they contacted NHLiberty4Paul they replied with "Sorry, campaign has asked me not to speak to reporters"?

For those who are interested, here's a link to that Huffington Post article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/huntsman-denounces-video-_n_1189285.html


Yes, the author of the article does indeed claim that they received this reply from the poster of the video:

When The Huffington Post contacted the poster of the video through YouTube to ask why they created the video and whether they had any formal association with the Paul campaign, NHLiberty4Paul replied: "Sorry, campaign has asked me not to speak to reporters."

 

[jkob]

Unless the video was made by someone in or close to the Huntsman campaign (or any other campaign) for the express purpose of fraudulently or deceptively damaging the Paul campaign, this won't go anywhere, anyway.

Pretty much. Pointless unless they can tie it to another campaign but if they can should go a way in showing how dirty these people are, at least hurt Huntsman's future career at least.

 

[TheViper]

For those who are interested, here's a link to that Huffington Post article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/06/huntsman-denounces-video-_n_1189285.html


Yes, the author of the article does indeed claim that they received this reply from the poster of the video:

The question is WHICH campaign?

 

[ionlyknowy]

It entirely depends how backlogged the courts are where they filed the action and how their lawyers are pursuing this...

90 days to get it before a judge on an initial hearing.

The subpoena for info on the John Does is sent to YouTube for the user info. This request will be very detailed: All IP addresses, all e-mail addresses, all identifying information, all passwords used, all dates of access, all activity logs, etc. With each further defined so there is no confusion. The definitions and requests can literally take a page (or more).

Once they have this information they can then use it to request detailed information about the IP from the service provider.

All of this can be fast tracked because of the high probably that this data will be lost within the next 30 days... Law enforcement usually takes this route and I not entirely sure it can be used in civil actions.

If this court lists their dockets online you can view the speed at which other cases proceed...

A few other things to consider:

- There are no defendants to slow down the process... as they are all John Does
- YouTube can fight the request
- The John Does could hire counsel and also fight disclosure. YouTube can notify them.

Working on it... should know in about an hour or so.

 

[DealzOnWheelz]

I would love for them to find out this is tied to the Romney Campaign. Especially with Huntsman backing Romney now, that would make it so sweet!!!

 

[FreedomRings]

As someone else pointed out in another thread, the video was created by a master propagandist on the same level as Karl Rove. It masterfully and subtly generates sympathy for Huntsman and hate against Paul.

Karl Rove used the exact same tactics in a 1996 race: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2004/11/karl-rove-in-a-corner/3537/3/

I just read in the same article that Huntsman's chief strategist, John Weaver, is actually a former associate/parter (and later enemy) of Karl Rove. Weaver is one of the few political strategists in the world who would have the chutzpah and lack of scruples to plot and execute such a vicious false flag attack.

That was the last piece of the puzzle.

Luckily, stupid Huntsman couldn't resist the temptation and bragged about it the day before. He gave it all away. Also, he probably never thought that it would become such a big story.

It would be interesting to know if Huntsman's sudden dropout had something to do with this case.

 

[thoughtomator]

I wouldn't be surprised if the suit is the reason Huntsman dropped out. He didn't show signs of doing that before, after all he took 17% in NH which was better than Gingrich and Perry have done anywhere. And he has all the money he needs and then some, so it wasn't that.

 

[TheAquaBuddha]

I read the complaint in the docket. It should be available soon. As the article stated, the RP campaign has three causes of action, specifically:

1. False Designation of Origin in Violation of Lanham Act § 43(a) [15 U.S.C. § 1125(a)])
2. False Description and Representation in Violation of Lanham Act § 43(a) [15 U.S.C. § 1125(a)])
3. Common Law Libel/Defamation

 

[FreedomRings]

I do think the campaign ran out of money. But I was surprised by the cataclysmic look on his and his family's faces when he gave his dropout speech. This wasn't "I failed this time around. If Romney wins I might become Secretary of State and if Romney loses, I'll run again in 2016." This was more like "Something terrible just happened. This is the end of my political career."

 

[jersdream]

I do think the campaign ran out of money. But I was surprised by the cataclysmic look on his and his family's faces when he gave his dropout speech. This wasn't "I failed this time around. If Romney wins I might become Secretary of State and if Romney loses, I'll run again in 2016." This was more like "Something terrible just happened. This is the end of my political career."

Quite possibly, but that is mighty speculation.

 

[szczebrzeszyn]

If the uploader had a brain, he used tor and they will not track him down. But maybe the first referral with lead to some discoveries. Anyway, I hope it was someone clueless doing the upload.

 

[nowwearefree]

don't have time to read over all the post
but is it possible that huntsman is dropping out the race because they knew Ron is suing them? and that Huntsman daughters is behind this?
to me, Huntsman daughters look like people that would do such things, i would not be one bit surprise if it were them

 

[ionlyknowy]

HERE IS THE COMPLAINT FOR ALL TO VIEW

http://www.mediafire.com/?7wsaaa1u4z770cw


Looks like discovery was requested simultaneously with the complaint. Meaning subpoenas have already been issued.

The law firm that is representing Paul's Presidential Campaign Committee is http://www.arentfox.com/

The case is essentially a Trademark infringement action with some common law libel, defamation thrown in for good measure.

 

[affa]

i still think he was a prop against Paul in NH, and he served his purpose. he would have stayed in it longer, but TPTB decided to squash, deflect, and distract from the Tom Davis endorsement and had him drop out in exchange for something.

this is separate. though I do think it'll reverberate. We know people on this forum found some serious evidence tangentally implicating the Huntsman campaign soon after the video surfaced... I can only imagine the firm the campaign hired discovered more than that.

If we're lucky, it runs deep and there's adequate proof... a nice scandal ripping the establishment in half right now would be mighty nice, and in line with all the other failures and misteps they've been making this election cycle.

 

[TheAquaBuddha]

HERE IS THE COMPLAINT FOR ALL TO VIEW

http://www.mediafire.com/?7wsaaa1u4z770cw


Looks like discovery was requested simultaneously with the complaint. Meaning subpoenas have already been issued.

The law firm that is representing Paul is http://www.arentfox.com/

They ARENT FOX news, har har har

 

[FreedomRings]

HERE IS THE COMPLAINT FOR ALL TO VIEW

http://www.mediafire.com/?7wsaaa1u4z770cw


Looks like discovery was requested simultaneously with the complaint. Meaning subpoenas have already been issued.

The law firm that is representing Paul is http://www.arentfox.com/

Thanks! So it was filed Friday the 13th. Huntsman dropped out two days later. Interesting...

 

[F3d]

If we're lucky, it runs deep and there's adequate proof... a nice scandal ripping the establishment in half right now would be mighty nice, and in line with all the other failures and misteps they've been making this election cycle.

Can't trust a Mormon. lol

 

[nc4rp]

its the principle of the matter.

 

[wgadget]

Just when Ron took four days off from the campaign trail. The horror!

 

[WilliamC]

you're an idiot.

if the statement above is false, should you be able to sue me? in my ideal world, at least, no. it's not physical aggression and it's not breaking a contract and it's not theft. it's at the very least an arguable position for a libertarian and held by many libertarians, not a position to be held only by unthinking people which is what you're implying.

Ah but if you deliberately slander or libel someone with the intention of doing them harm, i.e. damaging their reputation so that they lose wealth or the ability to gain wealth or if you do so to enrich yourself at their expense, then of course I should be able to sue you.

That's the difference between libel, slander, and just insulting someone.