Paul Campaign Suing Maker of Huntsman False-Flag Video!!

[specsaregood]

come on, is it really reasonable to expect that it came from Paul just because the name of the channel was NH4Paul? there is no one checking the accuracy of the channel's name.

my initial response would be, "No". But I'm tech savvy. If one was basing the answer to that question on how the media treated it, the answer would have to be a resounding, "Yes".

 

[Mini-Me]

Who first thing tweeted their first ever video from a brand new account directly to the Huntsman's and the Huntsmans' site first picked up the video before anyone else had it?

I think you are stretching credulity somewhat.

I also don't see how a random Ron Paul supporter would have access to the Huntsman family home video collection.

 

[dbill27]

Who first thing tweeted their first ever video from a brand new account directly to the Huntsman's and the Huntsmans' site first picked up the video before anyone else had it?

I think you are stretching credulity somewhat.

wasn't aware of those details

 

[low preference guy]

my initial response would be, "No". But I'm tech savvy. If one was basing the answer to that question on how the media treated it, the answer would have to be a resounding, "Yes".

maybe you won this round. the reason it's believable is that the media freaking believed it!

 

[FreedomRings]

Huntsman himself announced that the video was coming... the day before it came out. It was on the Piers Morgan show. There's a video of it somewhere on YouTube. He talked about his daughters doing some sneaky stuff and having something up their sleeves against Ron Paul.

(How do you embed a video on this forum? -- Thanks!)

 

[nano1895]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-A-R07mgs8

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on the quick reply bar (with the font/bold/italics/underline etc) to the right is an icon that looks like a vertical film reel, copy+paste the youtube video there.

 

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

maybe you won this round. the reason it's believable is that the media freaking believed it!

More like, the media was trying to get the public to believe it.

 

[TheViper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-A-R07mgs8

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[video]url of the video[ /video]

Remove the extra space between [ and /.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

agree. the question is: should one reasonably expect that the video was made by Paul just because the name of the channel was NH4Paul? since no one verifies the veracity of channels name, i believe that's not a reasonable expectation.

There was also something in the video that suggested the person was a Ron Paul supporter, and you know the media ran with it and treated it as an actual ad. If this can be tied to another campaign then that seals the deal right there because there is an obvious intent tied to a very strong motive and evidence of that intent. Therefore, I think the case is rock solid if they can find out who it is. It is a completely legitimate reason to sue.

 

[RickyJ]

I also don't see how a random Ron Paul supporter would have access to the Huntsman family home video collection.

Ron Paul supporters are everywhere, even within the Huntsman family.

 

[low preference guy]

More like, the media was trying to get the public to believe it.

i agree. i was tempted to put "believe" in quotes but didn't want to make too many points.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

This isn't an ancap vs. minarchist question. It's just a question of what constitutes a legitimate tort. I recon some ancaps would fall on each side of this issue.

Perhaps you're right, but for the record, I support defamation laws.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

This is why statists annoy me. They think the law is one of the few legitimate uses of the state.

Not to derail the thread, but what other way would you have it? Everyone gets to decide their own laws? There's no justice in that system.

 

[dirtdigger]

Seems like a waste of money at this point IMO.

But I'm interested in knowing who it was.

This is not a waste. The lawsuit will change any remaining perception that the RP campaign was behind the video.

 

[dirtdigger]

what if it turns out that the vid maker was just some really dumb rp fan?

No such thing called dub rp fan. One is either a supporter of RP or is dumb.

 

[low preference guy]

No such thing called dub rp fan. One is either a supporter of RP or is dumb.

i can tell you're new here. hang out more with us.

 

[Mini-Me]

No such thing called dub rp fan. One is either a supporter of RP or is dumb.

Corner case: Technically, a moron could could play eenie-meenie-miney-moe and/or arbitrarily choose to like Ron Paul for all the wrong reasons.

Extra Credit Challenge: Convert someone to support Ron Paul using this. It's hard, but it can be done:

 

[LBennett76]

Maybe it was that Jere guy that's been stirring up trouble. Maybe this is something they were actually able to catch him on. ... a possibility.

 

[affa]

Assuming it's Huntsman related, and OH do I assume that... the only way for Huntsman to avoid destroying his career with a massive scandal is for his daughters to immediately come forward and admit their wrong doing. It'll still be a scandal, but survivable.

Who brought the popcorn?

 

[kylejack]

I know they're just trying to get the IP to expose the creator.

But I don't really like that he's using the arm of the state to do this when the video, while vile, is free speech. No Ron Paul trademarks are used, and the ad only says to vote for Ron Paul, not that he had any part in creating it.