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My aren't you an intelligent one.. I certainly have a better understanding of why some Ron Paul supporters are so well accepted now. Thanks..
Paul At 4% And Huckabee AT 22% In Iowa?!?
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My aren't you an intelligent one.. I certainly have a better understanding of why some Ron Paul supporters are so well accepted now. Thanks..
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Care to explain yourself?My aren't you an intelligent one.. I certainly have a better understanding of why some Ron Paul supporters are so well accepted now. Thanks..
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polls = brainwash mind controll sentiment tools, kind of like frank luntz's magical knob graph chart machine. They are tools for the sheep, who cannot think for theirselves so they assume they musty pick the winner. It's scary how many people make decisions like this.
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The intelligent one awaits...My aren't you an intelligent one.. I certainly have a better understanding of why some Ron Paul supporters are so well accepted now. Thanks..
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Huckabee didn't do anything--it was the media. I remember back in September my dad casually said to me, "You don't hear a word about Ron Paul on the news but they sure talk about that Huckabee a alot." And that is coming from an unbiased non-ron paul supporter. (Although considering the bumper sticker on my dad's car, I'd say he is now 
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Do you?
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i have been going to the linn county(Iowa) republican meetings for almost a year now. at these meetings people break into groups for their candidates and get to speak for a minute on behalf of their candidate.during this time Huck,tancredo,hunter had no representation. but in the last months meeting there were like 4 or 5 senior citizens for him. so he is touching a nerve with the blue hairs, i think its more about fooling them with his commercials. if you dont look into his record then he looks like a conservative.after you dig a little you see he is just another GWB type of republican.
Romney is already attacking him in ad's so we have seen his support begin to decline. our best chance is that iowa gets hit with a bad snow storm, this will keep the dopey people at home and we know the Ron Paul supporters would come out even if there were fireballs falling from the sky.
Romney is already attacking him in ad's so we have seen his support begin to decline. our best chance is that iowa gets hit with a bad snow storm, this will keep the dopey people at home and we know the Ron Paul supporters would come out even if there were fireballs falling from the sky.
from lew rockwell blog:
Writes Michel Accad: "LRC is a fantastic site and a wealth of resources. From among the different shades of libertarianisms people identify today (ref. Mother Jones article) I bet historians of the future will talk about 'LRC libertarians' as the dominant or defining movement of the RP revolution.
"Two comments: 1) The grassroots RP supporters get most of the attention these days, and deservedly so, but I must say that I find the official campaign to be doing an absolutely brilliant job as well. Take for example the phone call from Carol and the Season's Greetings video. I can't think of any better way to answer the 'fringe lunatic' smears. The 30-minute infomercial to be shown in Iowa is also spot on in every aspect. Kudos to the campiagn staff.
"2) If the polling companies would only publish their response rates, even tossing out the non-working or business numbers dialed randomly, people would quickly recognize the worthlessness of the data. I bet nowadays the rate doesn't even reach 10%, which completely annihilates the external validity (or generalizability) of the poll, even if it maintains some internal validity (eg. at +/- 4% margin of error).
"What is most amusing is to read the polling industry's cover up of the issue. They acknowledge that response rates may have declined "precipitously" but claim that it is not a big problem and that their research (undoubtedly more surveys...) show that 'the relationship between response rates and survey quality has become much less clear.'
"John Zogby is a little more realistic in this piece from 2004 stating that sooner or later the decline in response rates will put traditional telephone polling out of business (is this the year?...)."
Writes Michel Accad: "LRC is a fantastic site and a wealth of resources. From among the different shades of libertarianisms people identify today (ref. Mother Jones article) I bet historians of the future will talk about 'LRC libertarians' as the dominant or defining movement of the RP revolution.
"Two comments: 1) The grassroots RP supporters get most of the attention these days, and deservedly so, but I must say that I find the official campaign to be doing an absolutely brilliant job as well. Take for example the phone call from Carol and the Season's Greetings video. I can't think of any better way to answer the 'fringe lunatic' smears. The 30-minute infomercial to be shown in Iowa is also spot on in every aspect. Kudos to the campiagn staff.
"2) If the polling companies would only publish their response rates, even tossing out the non-working or business numbers dialed randomly, people would quickly recognize the worthlessness of the data. I bet nowadays the rate doesn't even reach 10%, which completely annihilates the external validity (or generalizability) of the poll, even if it maintains some internal validity (eg. at +/- 4% margin of error).
"What is most amusing is to read the polling industry's cover up of the issue. They acknowledge that response rates may have declined "precipitously" but claim that it is not a big problem and that their research (undoubtedly more surveys...) show that 'the relationship between response rates and survey quality has become much less clear.'
"John Zogby is a little more realistic in this piece from 2004 stating that sooner or later the decline in response rates will put traditional telephone polling out of business (is this the year?...)."
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I think he is upset as I am at the constant use of our Lord's Name used in vain. I do not want to irrate anyone citing Bible verses and so I don't. It would be nice for those of you who are not Christians to please not take our Lord's Name invain. Let's stay focused on getting Ron Paul elected. Freedom brings us together from all religions, philosophies and creeds. Let's not irritate one another. Enough said. Thank you.
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Excuse me dill-wadd, you started this merry-go-round.
Don't expect me to be your whipping post.
Keep in mind that the polls only include those that "normally vote republican". People that indicate Dem or Indy status may not be included. How many of you would classify yourselves as Republicans?
Keep the faith. Put down the mouse. Pick up the phone. Spread the word. The REAL poll will be on voting day when all the crossover votes are counted. But we NEED at least double digits in the first few primaries. ACT NOW! Is there an anti-Iraq war person you have not spoken to yet?
Keep the faith. Put down the mouse. Pick up the phone. Spread the word. The REAL poll will be on voting day when all the crossover votes are counted. But we NEED at least double digits in the first few primaries. ACT NOW! Is there an anti-Iraq war person you have not spoken to yet?
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There was a guest on Hardball last night that even said that the polls are NOT accurate and doesn't understand why the Media is so obsessed with them anymore. We need a new polling system that is based on the Internet now. Not landline telephones.
If you're right about that poll, that is a GREAT argument. Do you have a link we can use to show people?
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It's not us ....it's how the polls are set up.
Once you understand how each poll is conducted you realize that they are in fact propaganda.
Nothing more. We are doing everything correctly and working very hard.
We are going to do very well in the first states....Trust Me!
We need to stop underestimating the importance of polls. Are they inaccurate? Yes. But RP is likely only a few points higher than they show.
Thanks, wow that poll is ridiculous. It even shows RP's support dropping.
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keep in mind, huck hasn't really "done" anything.
the media pushed him VERY VERY VERY hard for a month or two, which is why he is where he is today.
the media pushed him VERY VERY VERY hard for a month or two, which is why he is where he is today.
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I am a Ron Paul supporter, but if I were undecided I certainly would be turned off by the behavior of some of his supporters. Many of you are rude, crude and unruly. Screaming in people's faces and disorderly behavior is not the way to win friends and influence enemies. Why can't you understand that?
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