Paris and What Should Be Done

[Brian4Liberty]

Paris and What Should Be Done
Written by Ron Paul - Sunday November 15, 2015

The horrific attacks in Paris on Friday have, predictably, led to much over-reaction and demands that we do more of the exact things that radicalize people and make them want to attack us. The French military wasted no time bombing Syria in retaliation for the attacks, though it is not known where exactly the attackers were from. Thousands of ISIS fighters in Syria are not Syrian, but came to Syria to overthrow the Assad government from a number of foreign countries -- including from France and the US.

Ironically, the overthrow of Assad has also been the goal of both the US and France since at least 2011.

Because the US and its allies are essentially on the same side as ISIS and other groups – seeking the overthrow of Assad – many of the weapons they have sent to the more “moderate” factions also seeking Assad’s ouster have ended up in the hands of radicals. Moderate groups have joined more radical factions over and over, taking their US-provided training and weapons with them. Other moderate groups have been captured or killed, their US-provided weapons also going to the radicals. Thus the more radical factions have become better equipped and better trained, while occasionally being attacked by US or allied planes.

Does anyone not believe this is a recipe for the kind of disaster we have now seen in Paris? The French in particular have been very active in arming even the more radical groups in Syria, as they push for more political influence in the region. Why do they still refuse to believe in the concept of blowback? Is it because the explanation that, “they hate us because we are free,” makes it easier to escalate abroad and crack down at home?

It may not be popular to say this as emotions run high and calls ring out for more bombing in the Middle East, but there is another way to address the problem. There is an alternative to using more military intervention to address a problem that was caused by military intervention in the first place.

That solution is to reject the militarists and isolationists. It is to finally reject the policy of using “regime change” to further perceived US and western foreign policy goals, whether in Iraq, Libya, Syria, or elsewhere. It is to reject the foolish idea that we can ship hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to “moderates” in the Middle East and expect none of them to fall into the hands of radicals.

More bombs will not solve the problems in the Middle East. But a more promising approach to the Middle East is currently under fire from the isolationists in Washington. The nuclear deal with Iran ends UN sanctions and opens that country to international trade. Just last week the presidents of France and Iran met to discuss a number of trade deals. Other countries have followed. Trade and respect for national sovereignty trumps violence, but Washington still doesn’t seem to get it. Most presidential candidates compete to thump the table loudest against any deal with Iran. They will use this attack to propagandize against approving trade with Iran even though Iran has condemned the attack and is also in the crosshairs of ISIS.

Here is the alternative: Focus on trade and friendly relations, stop shipping weapons, abandon “regime change” and other manipulations, respect national sovereignty, and maintain a strong defense at home including protecting the borders from those who may seek to do us harm.

We should abandon the failed policies of the past, before it’s too late.

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[puppetmaster]

I notice every article starts one thing like this.....Belgium national. French citizen. .....etc making sure they are not described as immigrants.....any certainly no mention of being muslim

 

[sdsubball23]

If someone doesn't take any military action to stop ISIS, what if they expand?

 

[Aspie Minarcho-Capitalist]

If the subversive neo-conservative revolutionaries like Tony Bliar (the most evil, dangerous man in the world IMO and one of the most hated men in Britain) and the Bush Administration hadn't invaded Iraq for the sake of unveiling fictitious WMD's the instigation of ISIS never would have come true, yet with a magnitude of self righteous audaciousness, the Orwellian interventionism apologists blame non interventionists and neo-isolationists for all of the colonized bombardments they have imposed towards sovereign nations like Paris, and furthermore neglect to mention that unconstrained border controls have very well succored the actions of these forearmed immigrants. They have a lot to answer when their time comes...eventually.

 

[puppetmaster]

Same that we did for the Russian plane bombed by isis....nothing.. Russian lives matter...what about the Russian kids...

 

[sdsubball23]

Same that we did for the Russian plane bombed by isis....nothing.. Russian lives matter...what about the Russian kids...

What if people say we would be poor leaders and poor friends of France if we don't join in stopping ISIS?

And even if we do nothing, how does ISIS get stopped from expanding and gaining more power?

 

[fatjohn]

I notice every article starts one thing like this.....Belgium national. French citizen. .....etc making sure they are not described as immigrants.....any certainly no mention of being muslim

Yes after having shared it on my facebook, this only strucks me now after you point it out.

Anyway still a good column in a whole. But yeah these french and belgian terrorists only have that nationality on paper we know where their allegiance lies in their hearts. I had a libtard trying to pounce me on that. I just pointed out that in that case the integration fantasy we're supposed to believe in isn't turning out that great. And that even non-radical refugees might have extremist offspring.

Anyway no war, no unbridled immigration. That's the point Paul makes, that's the point I make.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Let France figure it out?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I notice every article starts one thing like this.....Belgium national. French citizen. .....etc making sure they are not described as immigrants.....any certainly no mention of being muslim

Yep, that is the leftist talking point.

 

[RJB]

Same as always. Give weapons to Al Queda and ramp up the rhetoric against Assad and Putin.

 

[kfarnan]

The governments are compulsive liars. Without first hand evidence of anything, how can there be any clear action.

 

[osan]

This situation is just the latest example of how steeped we all are in lies. Lies are everywhere. Lies and deceit, the twisting of truth to paint misleading pictures.

The world is awash in lies and deceit and it will be the undoing of the race of men.

All we know is that a group of people shot up and blew up a bunch of other people, including themselves. It is probably safe to assume they were Muslims. Beyond that, who can say for sure? This could be precisely what everyone seems to be calling it. Could it not also be a false-flag? If it were, how would we be able to tell? Most likely, we would not be able to tell. This is what we get when the world is filled with lies and this is why none of this stands to end well for us.

There is a big part of me that would personally man the minigun and mow down every last one of these crude, ignorant, evil bastards. I have to work to keep that side of me in check because when I pull out and dust off my reason, I see that there is no virtue in yet another genocide. Islam is filth, that much I will say without equivocation. The true practitioners are, therefore, filth and worthy of nothing better than the sword. But what of the other 1.x billions who call themselves "muslim", yet are really something else? My wife was raised muslim. She fled that filth as soon as she was out of the house and became a Presbyterian. She will tell you that they NEVER read Qur'an. Not one word of it. They didn't pray to Mecca. They simply grew up with a set of beliefs, many of which are either wholly foreign to the dictates of Qur'an, or greatly "interpreted" versions of it. Those people are as Muslim as a ham and cheese sandwich is kosher. They did what the mullah told them, and that was the long and short of their religious life. That they call themselve "muslim" does not make it so. If I call myself "woman", would it be OK for me to frequent the women's rest rooms? Calling a horse a "goldfish" does not make it so. This needs to be borne centrally in mind before anyone goes hunting.

Therefore, as much as some part of me wants to take up a rifle and go hunting, I would not allow myself such satisfaction without the benefit of reason and intelligence. I would readily hunt and kill the sorts who do things such as what was done in Paris. I do not, however, want the blood of innocents on my hands if I can reasonably avoid it.

 

[robert68]

Should France, Perhaps, Be Trying Liberty and Peace?

In response to the terrorist attacks in France, French President Francois Hollande has ordered more bombing raids on Syria. That is a sure way to push more Syrians toward ISIS. As if France hasn't already shown its military might in numerous spots in the Muslim world.

Eric Margolis writes:

France is a prime target because of its extensive and deepening military interventions in the Muslim world. Some 10,000 French soldiers or airmen and large numbers of intelligence operatives are involved in Syria, Iraq, the Gulf, Libya, Chad, Mali and Ivory Coast. France props up the authoritarian rulers of Algeria and Morocco

France is playing a central role in its former colonies, Syria and Lebanon. Paris appears to have long-range plans for expanding its influence in the Levant, including installing regimes attuned to French policies.

French warplanes are bombing Syria and this writer believes French special forces have been in combat in Syria, as they were in Libya when the western powers combined to overthrow the Khadaffi government.

In short, France has made many enemies for itself across the Mideast.

Is it any wonder why France is a prime target of terrorists?

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[Ronin Truth]

Non-intervene?

 

[dannno]

Best answer I've seen so far.

 

[TomtheTinker]

Bomb them all!!!!!! Muslims, brown people and the rest!!!! Bomb bomb bombs away!!

 

[TomtheTinker]

Sarcasm