PANETTA: 'INTERNATIONAL PERMISSION’ TRUMPS CONGRESSIONAL PERMISSION FOR MILITARY ACTIONS

[Tinnuhana]

What would happen if Ron came out and called it treason? That was mentioned on a Panetta thread yesterday. Has he already intimated this about other people in the past who've said such things (so nobody can accuse him of pandering to the GOP base in an electionyear)?

 

[jmdrake]

I've been too numbed by 20 years (or more?) of treason to be shocked by anything now. (Just realized that our government has been traitorous for nearly half my life. And the time before that I was too naive to pay attention. Sad. )

 

[Sullivan*]

Asking the fox to watch the hen-house.

The general sitting behind Panetta is part and party to this behavior.

Guess the constitution they swore to uphold is different to the one I read?

Didn't you hear? The Senate authored and passed a (secret) updated version no one else is allowed to know about. It's held in that one secret facility next to the classified even more unConstitutional version of the PATRIOT Act.

 

[Xhin]

What the HELL

 

[Monk]

I think some are blowing Panetta's statements out of proportion. Irregardless of whether interventions are right or wrong, you want to have international support in cases of non-national security matters. There is nothing strange about this.

 

[phill4paul]

I think some are blowing Panetta's statements out of proportion. Irregardless of whether interventions are right or wrong, you want to have international support in cases of non-national security matters. There is nothing strange about this.

Non-national security matters are not national security matters.

 

[Monk]

Non-national security matters are not national security matters.

Correct but if we are to assume such interventions were legal (as does Panetta and the services committe) then it would only be logical to recieve international support. Now if one was to look at the matter through the lense of non-interventionism , the debate would be entirely different.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Well...

Is it clear enough yet, to those who doubt and scoff, about who is really running the show here?

I hate to bring it up, so I keep quiet about it mostly, but right here, is why I don't get too upset about how Ron is doing "election" wise.

If he were, by some miracle, to overcome the apathy, stupidity, sloth, propaganda, fraud and "dirty tricks", the people that are really running the show, the people who say things like this in a moment of unscripted truthful clarity...these fucking people would have Ron blown away like lint before he ever got within a thousand yards of 1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

And that's a hard fucking truth that too many do not want to wake up to.

This fucking mess is not going get cleaned up at the ballot box.

 

[WilliamC]

It's pretty obvious what the stakes are, and I'm sure Ron Paul knows them too.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It's pretty obvious what the stakes are, and I'm sure Ron Paul knows them too.

I've heard him say as much, on more than one occasion.

One of the reasons I have nothing but respect for that man.

Courage. Integrity. Honesty.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Well...

Is it clear enough yet, to those who doubt and scoff, about who is really running the show here?

I hate to bring it up, so I keep quiet about it mostly, but right here, is why I don't get too upset about how Ron is doing "election" wise.

If he were, by some miracle, to overcome the apathy, stupidity, sloth, propaganda, fraud and "dirty tricks", the people that are really running the show, the people who say things like this in a moment of unscripted truthful clarity...these fucking people would have Ron blown away like lint before he ever got within a thousand yards of 1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

And that's a hard fucking truth that too many do not want to wake up to.

This fucking mess is not going get cleaned up at the ballot box.

Four boxes ... and three of 'em are worthless.

 

[DamianTV]

I've heard him say as much, on more than one occasion.

One of the reasons I have nothing but respect for that man.

Courage. Integrity. Honesty.

Even if he does become President, he can not shift the tide of evil back to good by himself. If he does win, we must continue to support any Real Liberty Efforts that any Liberty Minded Leader makes. Socialism is all about having someone else do it for you. Including telling you what to think. Liberty is the exact opposite, where we have to tell them to keep their Socialstic Opinions to themselves by removing the Socialists from Office.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Well...

Is it clear enough yet, to those who doubt and scoff, about who is really running the show here?

I hate to bring it up, so I keep quiet about it mostly, but right here, is why I don't get too upset about how Ron is doing "election" wise.

If he were, by some miracle, to overcome the apathy, stupidity, sloth, propaganda, fraud and "dirty tricks", the people that are really running the show, the people who say things like this in a moment of unscripted truthful clarity...these fucking people would have Ron blown away like lint before he ever got within a thousand yards of 1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

And that's a hard fucking truth that too many do not want to wake up to.

This fucking mess is not going get cleaned up at the ballot box.

read it. let it soak in.

we have 2 standing armies.

one deployed as foreign mercenaries. under the guise of "national security" and sometimes even "humanitarianism" their mission is to create chaos all across the globe so that TPTB can fill in the power vacuums war creates in order to shape/reshape geopolitical situations, enslaving the world one sovereign country at a time.

one is deployed here. under the guise of "protect and serve" they are the judge and jury-- sometimes executioner-- used to enforce the thousands of laws and regulations, thus enslaving the citizens one sovereign citizen at a time.

both, in reality, serve to protect an utterly corrupted system.

both organizations-- leadership especially-- are emboldened every day.

this is going to end badly.

 

[Anti Federalist]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to flightlesskiwi again.

Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight

My nerves are fucking shot...

read it. let it soak in.

we have 2 standing armies.

one deployed as foreign mercenaries. under the guise of "national security" and sometimes even "humanitarianism" their mission is to create chaos all across the globe so that TPTB can fill in the power vacuums war creates in order to shape/reshape geopolitical situations, enslaving the world one sovereign country at a time.

one is deployed here. under the guise of "protect and serve" they are the judge and jury-- sometimes executioner-- used to enforce the thousands of laws and regulations, thus enslaving the citizens one sovereign citizen at a time.

both, in reality, serve to protect an utterly corrupted system.

both organizations-- leadership especially-- are emboldened every day.

this is going to end badly.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Panetta Publicly Admits U.S. Military/Obama Takes It's Orders from The U.N
Corporate news discusses contraception and rush limbaugh

America is in deep doo doo

 

[pcosmar]

Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight

...

And there ain't nowhere to run.....

 

[Anti Federalist]

And there ain't nowhere to run.....

The primary reason my nerves are shot.

Were there a place to go, I'd have been gone like a fart in a blizzard.

 

[anaconda]

I hope Dr. Paul absolutely HARPS on this in each and every cable "news" interview that he does in the near future.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to flightlesskiwi again.

Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight
Fight or flight

My nerves are fucking shot...

both.

guerrilla style.

 

[Anti Federalist]

both.

guerrilla style.

http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Out-Leaving-Expanded-Self-reliance/dp/1934170291/lewrockwell#_