Palestinians Notorious for Faking News Footage

nodope0695 · Jan 16, 2009

Its so common that a name has been coined for footage and photos from Palestinian sources: Pallywood.

Check it out:

http://seconddraft.org/streaming/gaza_beach.wmv

http://seconddraft.org/streaming/gaza_beach_rushes.wmv

http://seconddraft.org/streaming/pallywood.wmv

http://israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/articles/dip_0204.htm

There's more where that came from. Just steer your favorite search engine toward the topic.

angelatc · Jan 16, 2009

So? CNN is famous for it too.

Israel's military is acting in violation of the Supreme Court's ruling that declared that media must be allowed into Gaza.

Defend that. I don't count "well, the liberal media always lies about us anyway!" as a defense either. I want to know exactly why it is ok for Israel's military to ignore the law.

Peace&Freedom · Jan 16, 2009

Ok, in this age of amateur videography and cell cameras, we can concede pallywood is a real phenomenon. See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys

Best youtube comment, typos and all: "ah now i get it so all the 1000+ palestinian people killed in 3 weeks now are jsut a tv editing its a pollywood not true , its jsut a movie from the plaestianians, and all the pictures of the dead children and woman is just a photoshop editing ah ok now im elifed."

RickyJ · Jan 16, 2009

Compared to the professional "Jews" who fake the news every single day they are mere amateurs. The trolls on this forum are really ruining the place.

Dr.3D · Jan 16, 2009

RickyJ said:
The trolls on this forum are really ruining the place.

Which ones?

Hiki · Jan 16, 2009

RickyJ said:
Compared to the professional "Jews" who fake the news every single day they are mere amateurs. The trolls on this forum are really ruining the place.

It's sad to see that on RPF anyone presenting evidence against Hamas is called a troll.
Are you really so ignorant in your war against the "evil Jews" that you ignore any evidence against Hamas as bullshit and as soon as there is anything against Israel you go into a rampage?

Not that I support Israel, just trying to be objective.

ClockwiseSpark · Jan 16, 2009

Hiki said:
It's sad to see that on RPF anyone presenting evidence against Hamas is called a troll.
Are you really so ignorant in your war against the "evil Jews" that you ignore any evidence against Hamas as bullshit and as soon as there is anything against Israel you go into a rampage?

Not that I support Israel, just trying to be objective.

I think the reference to trolls is due to the fact that nodope has taken it upon himself to single handedly attempt to convince us all that the "sub human" Palestinians actually deserve it.

Apparently he has now changed his approach and is going to convince us it's really not happening at all.

Cowlesy · Jan 16, 2009

Little more civility, little less personal shots, little less collectivism, please.

RickyJ · Jan 16, 2009

Hiki said:
It's sad to see that on RPF anyone presenting evidence against Hamas is called a troll.
Are you really so ignorant in your war against the "evil Jews" that you ignore any evidence against Hamas as bullshit and as soon as there is anything against Israel you go into a rampage?

Not that I support Israel, just trying to be objective.

When Hamas starts blowing up Israeli schools then let me know. Until then, I consider you a troll.

Sandra · Jan 16, 2009

NoDope, it was the repeated term"subhuman" that burned you early on. I don't think that term should be used on anyone. Be prepared to back up your nanecalling because you definitely can't prove it. They're humans.

Agent CSL · Jan 16, 2009

There is corruption on both sides, manipulation on both sides. This shouldn't be used as ammo against the Palestinian people. Are you suggesting that a large number of casualties are faking it?

Americans do it, Israel does it, Britain does, too. Would a small group of Palestinians do it to get their "footage" on the news? Hell yes. Is it justified in using it against a population currently being bombarded right now? No. Is it evidence in a court of law? Yes. Should it be a reason to blame Palestinians for their plight? No.

RickyJ · Jan 16, 2009

There is corruption on both sides, manipulation on both sides.

Yet only one side is getting slaughtered, having their homes wrecked, their daughters raped. Defenders of Israel disgust me.

Agent CSL · Jan 16, 2009

RickyJ said:
Yet only one side is getting slaughtered, having their homes wrecked, their daughters raped. Defenders of Israel disgust me.

Hamas has done some things, but I'm no defender of Israel. In fact if you check my past posts you can see I've feverishly bashed them at every factual opportunity I could get. I've even made a topic on my other forums defending Palestine.

Acknowledging that humans are corrupt does not mean I favor one side or the other. Just that corruption is.

RickyJ · Jan 16, 2009

Agent CSL said:
Acknowledging that humans are corrupt does not mean I favor one side or the other. Just that corruption is.

I know you aren't defending Israel. That comment wasn't directed at you. I have no love for Israel, which may be wrong. But that is the way I feel.

pinkmandy · Jan 16, 2009

Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-6604775898578139565

lucius · Jan 16, 2009

Hamas is JV at best..."No business like Shoah business"

The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering by Norman G. Finkelstein

fj45lvr · Jan 16, 2009

Agent CSL said:
There is corruption on both sides, manipulation on both sides. This shouldn't be used as ammo against the Palestinian people. Are you suggesting that a large number of casualties are faking it?

Americans do it, Israel does it, Britain does, too. Would a small group of Palestinians do it to get their "footage" on the news? Hell yes. Is it justified in using it against a population currently being bombarded right now? No. Is it evidence in a court of law? Yes. Should it be a reason to blame Palestinians for their plight? No.

This reminds me of John Kerry having some guys go around and film "recreations" of his military heroism in Viet Nam.

During the IRAQ occupation the U.S. I believe also "accidentally" bombed a UN food depot which reminds me of Israel supposedly "accidentally" bombing a UN HQ in Gaza (those events should underscore how Civilian homes and apartments are easily "collateral" to the bombing.....HELL the US even bombed the CHINESE Embassy by Accident not that long ago for Christ's sake!!!

The only difference between the US collateral Damage and Israeli is that the US taxpayer will cover the TAB for both of them!!! (as well as the cost of the bomb/missile).

The economic crash here can't come soon enough!!

raiha · Jan 16, 2009

Hey nodope, here are some very authentic looking shots for you. (Everyone else it is rather GRAPHIC) you gotta hand it to the Palestinians for their make up and photo shoppe skills under fire. Stephen Spielberg might even be able to employ some of them.

http://rafahtoday.org/news/todaymain.htm

Imperial · Jan 16, 2009

For those of you who can see only Israel committing evil, you can still pin this on Israel. Israel has an obligation to let Western media in, which it is not doing in the status quo. Thus, we are forced to rely on even more biased Palestinian media. Look for things that come from associated press, as they are just fact streams. And, use critical analysis to tell what is fake and what isn't. For example, what seems very dubious or hard to prove.

An example of a good story: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50F6ML20090116

That is pro-Palestinians, even though it was on Israeli television.

Of course, Hamas is obviously at fault to. An invasion of Gaza Strip helps Hamas in the long run, as they will still have thousands of people to lead when this is done. Once Israel is gone, Hamas becomes the noble defender in the eyes of the people who are tired of Israeli shells. And Israel fell for the bait, and were all too ready to invade. I don't think 18 deaths justifies over 1,000....

ronpaulhawaii · Jan 16, 2009

Imperial said:
For those of you who can see only Israel committing evil, you can still pin this on Israel. Israel has an obligation to let Western media in, which it is not doing in the status quo. Thus, we are forced to rely on even more biased Palestinian media. Look for things that come from associated press, as they are just fact streams. And, use critical analysis to tell what is fake and what isn't. For example, what seems very dubious or hard to prove.

An example of a good story: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50F6ML20090116

That is pro-Palestinians, even though it was on Israeli television.

Of course, Hamas is obviously at fault to. An invasion of Gaza Strip helps Hamas in the long run, as they will still have thousands of people to lead when this is done. Once Israel is gone, Hamas becomes the noble defender in the eyes of the people who are tired of Israeli shells. And Israel fell for the bait, and were all too ready to invade. I don't think 18 deaths justifies over 1,000....

I've been researching the body counts for a debate I have been having on another venue and am wondering where you got the 18 Israeli deaths from? Were there 5 deaths somewhere today?

It should also be noted that the 13 deaths I see reported include 4 from friendly fire.

Israeli: 13 (1.13%)
Palestinian: 1133 (98.87%)

http://gazabodycount.com/

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