Out-of-Staters and the Liberty Rally in Des Moines

Bryan in Iowa

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Hello to all out-of-staters coming to Des Moines for the June 30th rally. A few notes to help plan your time in Des Moines.

We had a meetup meeting tonight and discussed the stategy for this coming Saturday's rally. Joe Seehusen was not in attendence, he is traveling and could not make the meeting. Several things were discussed in regard to our visitors coming from different parts of the country and we are very excited you will be experiencing Des Moines first hand. There are many things to do next weekend, and I want all of you to be aware of the different activities you could take advantage of. But first, the rally.

I am aware some of you do not feel members of the Des Moines meetup have any authority regarding the activities of non-Iowa visitors, but once you understand our strategy I think you'll agree it is the best approach. Before the forum begins at 1:00 PM members of our group, and other Ron Paul supporters from Iowa will be handing out a prepared flyer informing the attendees Ron Paul will be speaking at 4:30 PM. We will have a few members posted at the entrances to hand out the flyers and we want to keep it fairly low key. Hy-Vee Hall is connected to the Iowa Events Center which is connected to downtown via a skywalk system. Many of the attendees will be entering the venue through the skywalk, and this is considered public space. Our members will be in these spaces to hand out the flyers. Needless to say the skywalk is not extremely wide..approximately 12 feet, so having several people handing out flyers/literature would not be productive. The main purpose is to inform the attendees Ron Paul will be speaking after the forum is over, so keeping our numbers unintrusive is important.

Some of you may have indicated you will attend the forum. I don't know how many this is, but you are welcome to attend if you reserved a seat through the forum's website. If you do attend, please be respectful and responsible for your actions. It would again be counter-productive to be offensive to the forum attendees by asking why Dr. Paul was not invited, or chanting Ron Paul's name, etc. If there is a question and answer period, by all means confront the participating candidates with their views on taxes. We are instructing our members to do the same. It would also be beneficial to video the event if at all possible. We think it will be interesting to compare the other candidates responses to that of Ron Paul.

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The time for staging is flexible, but we were thinking in the 12:00 PM time frame. This would be a good, public site away from the rallying point to organize and pass along instructions for the afternoon. This would also be a good place to purchase signage from those who bring it. Hopefully Joe Seehusen will be there, but at this time I can't promise anything. Joe will be very busy making sure the venue for Dr. Paul's visit is in order. As we get closer to the event hopefully I will have more info from Joe.

As far as passing out literature to Iowans while you're visiting the city. The Event Center/Hy-Vee Hall is located on the north side of downtown, the Capitol is on the east side. The largest event happening during the day downtown will be the Des Moines Arts Festival (http://www.desmoinesartsfestival.org), and will have thousands of people in attendence. This is where I get to spend my weekend. The weather forecast is calling for sunshine, so I expect large crowds.

On Friday night, the renowned Joffrey Ballet will give a free 1 1/2-hour-long outdoor performance that is open to the public at 8 p.m. The performance will take place on 12th Street between Grand and Locust street. There is also an Iowa Cubs baseball game at Principal Park on Friday night, with fireworks! If you attend the ballet, you will also see the fireworks...kinda.

On Saturday morning (8:00 AM - Noon) the Des Moines Farmer's Market is held on Court Ave. between 5th and 2nd Aves. This event is also attended by large crowds, especially in good weather.

Other local attractions include the State Historical Building (http://www.culturalaffairs.org/shsi/museum/index.html) located near the State Capitol, The Science Center of Iowa (http://www.sciowa.org/), and the Downtown Des Moines Art Center (http://www.desmoinesartcenter.org/downtown/index.html). All of these attractions will be open on Saturday, June 30th...and will offer bodies to hand out literature to!

For other events happening around the city, check out this site: http://www.dmjuice.com

I know there won't be a ton of time between the start of the forum and the beginning of the rally back at the Events Center, but perhaps when meeting at the Capitol groups can decide where they want to go and attempt hitting all of them. The arts festival will definitely be the biggest thing happening, but I don't know how it will look with a few hundred rEVOLutionaries descending upon the event handing out Ron Paul literature. There's also the option of hanging out at the Events Center until the forum is over, but that might be a bit boring.

At 4:30 when the rally begins we are going to open the doors to the Iowans who attended the ITR/ICA presidential forum. It has been requested, and we feel it is most productive if these people have first dibs on seats and food. We have no idea how many will be filing into room C, but we hope it's the majority. Once this is accomplished, everyone is more than welcome to join the fun. It has been stated by the staff at Hy-Vee Hall that a partitioning wall can be moved once the tax forum is over. Hopefully this wall will be moved and everyone will have a seat during Ron Paul's speech. Once the speech is over I have no idea what's going to happen. We haven't got that far yet. Hopefully I will know more in the next day or two.

I'm not sure how this would work, but is there anyone who would be interested in being the video coordinator for all videos shot during the weekend? I know this will be a tremendous undertaking, but perhaps someone has tackled this task in the past and would be willing to coordinate it somehow.

I think that's enough for one posting. If you have specific questions, please don't hesitate to ask. If I can answer, I will. If I can't, I will attempt to find the answer. I have been charged with keeping you informed, and I will do my best to do just that.

Again, we are excited you are coming, and we will make every effort to make your visit to our wonderful city enjoyable and worth your while.
 
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Walk softly(low key and low chanting) and carry a big stick(a nice sign)

Thank you for your advice and please keep us up to date on to how to treat the great people of Iowa properly and for the entertainment your state provides!
 
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literature? You're joking right?

There should be a sheet with a few Youtube URL's like the May 22nd Cspan speech on patriotism.
 
Good job Bryan - seems like you have things well in hand and organized...wish I could make it ...hoping dearly to read about how large and supportive the rally was...everyone have a great trip..
 
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Excellent. We'll see you all at noon at the capitol.

I was kinda hoping we would rally outside the event center when the forum attendees arrived, but I suppose it's more important that we're all on one page.

You sure we can't have a thousand of us with RP signs being kind and polite outside the event center? :sigh:
 
Heya Bryan, a couple of thoughts...
Maybe it would be a good idea to have a limited number of folks with the pamphlets/brochures (which are on www.ronpaul2008.com - the official ones look nice, I think) going to the baseball game, outside the iowa events center, and the arts festival. Too many people in one place may indeed be less helpful. We don't want to so much "crash" existing events and somehow make them less enjoyable, we just want to make literature available to the good folks. Another thought I had was that it seems like it might be nice to have a contingent outside the events center. It seems like most people will need to enter by the northwest side of the facility, from looking at sattelite photos of the area. Having at least some contingent there seems a good idea.
Finally, getting together earlier just so that we can all meet eachother and say hi to our intarweb friends, etc prior to actually going to work might be a good idea, too. :)

walt, as far as just passing out a list of youtube videos, I disagree. Many people may not have computers, and others may not want to deal with it. Let's give them real information, and direct them to main info website(s) from which such videos can be linked.
 
I advise checking the sattelite/aerial photos on maps.google.com for the area - they provide a lot of info about the area, the lay of the land, etc. Bryan, what's the address of the capital? Also, have you guys thought/talked about the ideas I posted before? Some pre-stuff meet&greet time strikes me an especially good idea. Thanks!
 
Heya Bryan, a couple of thoughts...
Maybe it would be a good idea to have a limited number of folks with the pamphlets/brochures (which are on www.ronpaul2008.com - the official ones look nice, I think) going to the baseball game, outside the iowa events center, and the arts festival. Too many people in one place may indeed be less helpful. We don't want to so much "crash" existing events and somehow make them less enjoyable, we just want to make literature available to the good folks. Another thought I had was that it seems like it might be nice to have a contingent outside the events center. It seems like most people will need to enter by the northwest side of the facility, from looking at sattelite photos of the area. Having at least some contingent there seems a good idea.
Finally, getting together earlier just so that we can all meet eachother and say hi to our intarweb friends, etc prior to actually going to work might be a good idea, too. :)

It is agreed by the boots on the ground here in Des Moines the best approach for the forum attendees is to woo them to Ron Paul's speech. This will be done by handing out a prepared flyer informing them Ron Paul will be in the building at the conclusion of the forum. After the Dr. Paul's speech it would be appropriate to hand out literature and perhaps hold a brief discussion regarding Dr. Paul's views. At the conclusion of the forum we are hoping a large number will simply move from one room to the other, so there won't be an attempt to hit them with more literature at that time. As far as the entrances to the venue are concerned, we will have people stationed at all legitimate enter points, including the street-side northwest corner.
walt, as far as just passing out a list of youtube videos, I disagree. Many people may not have computers, and others may not want to deal with it. Let's give them real information, and direct them to main info website(s) from which such videos can be linked.

In some literature YouTube links could be included, but if they connect to Ron Paul's website, there is a link to his YouTube, MySpace, etc., sites. So I agree, it probably isn't necessary to have specific YouTube address on a flyer.
 
What's the best parking stategy? Park halfway between the Capitol and Hy-Vee? What's the parking like at the Capitol?

Parking at the Capitol is abundant....both to the west and east. I would suggest using the parking to the west of the building. If you don't want to drive to both places, parking somewhere between the two is an option. All downtown parking on the weekends is free, so there shouldn't be a problem finding a spot.

One thing I forgot in regards to parking. There is another art show at the fairgrounds (far east side of town) this coming weekend. I know there are shuttles to the fairgrounds and I believe the Capitol might be one of the pick up/drop off points for this. It shouldn't be a problem tho. The 'other' art show (http://www.artfestmidwest.com) might be another option for handing out Ron Paul literature, but be advised it is in an enclosed building.
 
I advise checking the sattelite/aerial photos on maps.google.com for the area - they provide a lot of info about the area, the lay of the land, etc. Bryan, what's the address of the capital? Also, have you guys thought/talked about the ideas I posted before? Some pre-stuff meet&greet time strikes me an especially good idea. Thanks!

I agree with mdh's suggestion of printing off aerial maps of the area. It's something I always do when visiting an unknown place. The Capitol can be located on mapquest, google, or yahoo maps by entering the address E. 9th and E. Grand Ave. The complex actually is bordered by E. 9th, E. 12th, E. Grand Ave, and E. Walnut street. The parking lot I'm suggesting is to the west and in front of the buidling. It is located approximately 10 blocks from Hy-Vee Hall. I am going out today and will take a mileage reading.
 
What's the best parking stategy? Park halfway between the Capitol and Hy-Vee? What's the parking like at the Capitol?

Here are a few images (I'm a visual person):

The first is the Capitol Complex. The Liberty Bell (which was eluded to in another post) is located near the small parking lot to the south of the Capitol Building. The parking lots marked in red will not be available, the lots in green will.

http://photo.livevideo.com/photo/CBB3A19CAAB74CCB896E5D8AA42CF6AA/capitol-complex.aspx

Hy-Vee Hall and surrounding area:

http://photo.livevideo.com/photo/CBD5DF3B7F3246D48F1B3B4344A189D3/hy-vee-hall.aspx

The Downtown with POI:

http://photo.livevideo.com/photo/C942C478371D48198F398F081A748AF0/downtown.aspx

Hope these help!
 
Hey Bryan, is there *any* clue how many people are going to show up? Do you have a count of even just your local crew? :)
I can guess at how many out-of-towners are rolling if you know for sure how many Des Moiners/Des Moinites/Des Moinians there will be. ;)
 
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