Organizing an RNC Delegation Revolt??

[thoughtbombing]

Sure, the rules say that delegates are bound... they say they have to vote for the winner of the state...


but what happens if they don't?

Just a thought... what happens if we've infiltrated the RNC with enough delegates and they all refuse to vote for McCain... what if they vote NO CONFIDENCE... what if they all just vote for Ron Paul anyway? What if they all walk out instead of vote for a Tyrant?

 

[RageAgainstDC]

I'm sure theyd just king mccain regardless. Theyve picked their horse. The whole idea of democracy in this country is just a show. Why else even have a primary? To limit the peoples' choice, of course. Theres no point in having a primary if the nominee isnt the "chosen one". They will not let that happen.

 

[freelance]

There is one thing that I hadn't thought about. WHAT IF between winning the nomination and the convention, enough McCain delegates and alternates get mad and just decide to STAY HOME?

 

[joemiller]

What if...

Sure, the rules say that delegates are bound... they say they have to vote for the winner of the state...


but what happens if they don't?

Just a thought... what happens if we've infiltrated the RNC with enough delegates and they all refuse to vote for McCain... what if they vote NO CONFIDENCE... what if they all just vote for Ron Paul anyway? What if they all walk out instead of vote for a Tyrant?

"Sure, the rules say that delegates are bound"... the delegates are bound by an oath of honor, not to mention their signiture. "... What if they all just vote for Ron Paul anyway?"Think about this, please. Do you really think Dr. Paul would do such a thing himself? Do you really believe Dr. Paul would accept the nomination if offered under dishonorable circumstances?

 

[brandon]

There is alot of good that bound delegates can do without voting for Paul. We also vote on the republican party platform at the convention. Imagine if we have enough support at the RNC to make the rep platform say "we will not participate in any foreign interventions unless war has been declared by congress." Then mccain could get elected and be pratically forced to bring all of our troops home.

Delegates can also vote to suspend the rules. If the rules are suspended, then every delegate comes unbound.

 

[freelance]

There is alot of good that bound delegates can do without voting for Paul. We also vote on the republican party platform at the convention. Imagine if we have enough support at the RNC to make the rep platform say "we will not participate in any foreign interventions unless war has been declared by congress." Then mccain could get elected and be pratically forced to bring all of our troops home.

Nope. He's too stubborn. He doesn't listen to anyone--just like Bush.

Delegates can also vote to suspend the rules. If the rules are suspended, then every delegate comes unbound.

That might be possible.

 

[thoughtbombing]

"Sure, the rules say that delegates are bound"... the delegates are bound by an oath of honor, not to mention their signiture. "... What if they all just vote for Ron Paul anyway?"Think about this, please. Do you really think Dr. Paul would do such a thing himself? Do you really believe Dr. Paul would accept the nomination if offered under dishonorable circumstances?

Nice first post... now sign back in under your real name and let us see who you are... I've been getting a shitload of PM's telling me ideas are bad from people with less than 10 posts.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Delegates can also vote to suspend the rules. If the rules are suspended, then every delegate comes unbound.

The rules binding delegates are not RNC by-laws that the delegates can vote to change but are set by state election law.

Please stop this nonsense. This whole thread is an embarrassment and another reason for the perception that we're fringe and not to take Dr. Paul seriously.

 

[freelance]

The rules binding delegates are not RNC by-laws that the delegates can vote to change but are set by state election law.

Please stop this nonsense. This whole thread is an embarrassment and another reason for the perception that we're fringe and not to take Dr. Paul seriously.

Okay, Bradley, since you know the rules, could you please let us know if there is anyway around them. The rules haven't mattered at the local and state level, a la NV, LA, WA, and on and on...

 

[rich34]

"Sure, the rules say that delegates are bound"... the delegates are bound by an oath of honor, not to mention their signiture. "... What if they all just vote for Ron Paul anyway?"Think about this, please. Do you really think Dr. Paul would do such a thing himself? Do you really believe Dr. Paul would accept the nomination if offered under dishonorable circumstances?

Would Dr. Paul do it? Maybe not, BUT it would follow his logic in the tradition of Ghandi and Martin Luther King by bringing about change through peaceful means.

 

[joemiller]

Perhaps not

Would Dr. Paul do it? Maybe not, BUT it would follow his logic in the tradition of Ghandi and Martin Luther King by bringing about change through peaceful means.

Ghandi and Martin Luther King wouldn't do it either. And least we misunderstand one another, "peaceful" means, means "honorable" means.

 

[thoughtbombing]

Ghandi and Martin Luther King wouldn't do it either. And least we misunderstand one another, "peaceful" means, means "honorable" means.

umm, if we convinced the delegates to support Ron Paul, and then they DID... how is that not honorable?

 

[joemiller]

It doesn't matter who I am.

Nice first post... now sign back in under your real name and let us see who you are... I've been getting a shitload of PM's telling me ideas are bad from people with less than 10 posts.

It doesn't matter who I am or what I am...the message is the thing wherein Dr. Paul will catch the conscience of the king.

The real value of Dr. Paul's efforts, as he himself has said many times, is bringing his message forward into the consciousness of the people. His message is the revolution and it must be carried forward. It doesn't matter by whom, or by how many, only that it be carried forward.

Therefore, I would urge you to look closer at my message and realize Dr. Paul's message doesn't need tricks or subterfuge to carry it forward, truth never does.

 

[joemiller]

Now that is honorable.

umm, if we convinced the delegates to support Ron Paul, and then they DID... how is that not honorable?

I apologise if I have misinterperated your remarks. I was proceeding along the lines that you wanted to somehow get elected as a bound "McCain" delegate and then not support him for the prescribed number of ballots.

If your intent was simply to disuade McCain delegates from supporting him after the prescribed number of ballots, that's all perfectly honorable.