Oregon, Utah Mandate GPS Trackers in Electric Vehicles to Tax Per Mile

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Oregon, Utah Mandate GPS Trackers in Electric Vehicles to Tax Per Mile

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...rackers-in-electric-vehicles-to-tax-per-mile/

JOHN NOLTE 15 Aug 2023

Oregon and Utah have mandated GPS trackers be added to every electric vehicle so they can be taxed by the mile. Michigan is next.

The excuse for this is electric vehicles don’t purchase gasoline, and it’s gasoline taxes that pay for road maintenance. Obviously, this is the government’s camel nose wedging its way into the liberty tent. The end result will be much more sinister:

Here’s how the Utah Department of Transportation spins it:

Utah roads are maintained using taxes from gasoline sales. As vehicles become more fuel efficient and the number of electric vehicles grows, the Utah Department of Transportation and Division of Motor Vehicles is changing to a per-mile fee as a way for drivers to pay their portion of roadway operations and maintenance…

You will pay [one cent] per mile, deducted from the prepaid wallet, up to the amount of the flat fee. Enrolling in Utah’s Road Usage Charge program gives you access to DriveSync® for Utah DOT, an app that makes your driving safer and more productive through trip tracking and driving reports.

That nifty sounding DriveSync® app includes something called “Driving Coach“:

The Driving Coach compiles information from Acceleration, Cornering, Speed and Braking events; and grades you with a score for each trip so you can see how you improve over time.

If you can’t see where this is headed, you haven’t been paying attention.

Here’s Oregon:

ODOT created a website and program called OReGO where drivers can sign up to volunteer for a program where they pay a fee for every mile they drive on public roads. Currently it’s just under 2 cents per mile.

The program isn’t gaining much traction. About 700 people have signed up so far, either reporting their mileage to the state or by using GPS devices to track their travel.

Michigan is next.

With electric vehicles on the rise, the Michigan Department of Transportation is exploring new options to replace the gas tax.

One potential avenue is a road usage charge system, which would require residents to place a GPS tracker in their vehicle to keep track of their mileage.

Now, I understand why state governments want to stop electric vehicle owners from skirting the taxes that maintain roads. Additionally, electric vehicles, due to the excess weight of their battery, do more damage to roads over time. What bothers me is the GPS system.

There is no valid reason to track vehicle mileage by way of GPS. It would be just as easy to track only mileage. But GPS tells the government where we are and where we have been, which is why the government mandates GPS instead of a simple mileage tracker.
 
I advocated strongly against these schemes at the PA legislature. The best way I found to stop the free-rider problem is to use the yearly odometer readings that PA records as part of the registration process and multiply by vehicle weight.

The problem was what to do about mileage that neighboring state driver put on PA's roads... The answer was that it was pretty much a wash between PA drivers driving out of state and other state drivers coming into the state and they shouldn't get consumed by it.
 
Do odometers not exist? :confused:

It's because you can't track that the miles were driven in the same state as where the tax was collected. But it's dumb because it washes out for most states.

But this is one of the problems with state road funds being funded through fuel taxes. You'll always get one fuel source that pays less than another. I'm all for road user fees, but vehicle tracking is the most stupid way to do this. Some states just estimate the mileage and add it to registration fees... Some states tax electricity (although, that may be even more stupid) for the road fund.
 
It's because you can't track that the miles were driven in the same state as where the tax was collected. But it's dumb because it washes out for most states.

But this is one of the problems with state road funds being funded through fuel taxes. You'll always get one fuel source that pays less than another. I'm all for road user fees, but vehicle tracking is the most stupid way to do this. Some states just estimate the mileage and add it to registration fees... Some states tax electricity (although, that may be even more stupid) for the road fund.

And we've somehow survived this long without GPS tracking... while still apparently collecting such gargantuan surplus of revenue that we can send 100s of billions of pork-barrel dollars over to a random country in Eastern Europe. I wonder how many potholes you can fill with $160 billion?
 
I wonder how many potholes you can fill with $160 billion?

Given that pothole-filling is run by the government, the actual answer to that question is sure to bear striking similarities to the kind of answers you might get to "how many X does it take to screw in a light bulb?".
 
You will pay [one cent] per mile, deducted from the prepaid wallet, up to the amount of the flat fee. Enrolling in Utah’s Road Usage Charge program gives you access to DriveSync® for Utah DOT, an app that makes your driving safer and more productive through trip tracking and driving reports.

That nifty sounding DriveSync® app includes something called “Driving Coach“:

The Driving Coach compiles information from Acceleration, Cornering, Speed and Braking events; and grades you with a score for each trip so you can see how you improve over time.

If you can’t see where this is headed, you haven’t been paying attention.

Just to point out the blatantly obvious, it will be used for fines and fees. Speeding? Automatic ticket deduction from your account. Go through a stop sign or red light? Autoticket.

Now some may say they can remotely limit your speed, but why do that if they can make some revenue instead? But they could shut down your vehicle if you attempt to drive somewhere they ban you from going. Only those with appropriate social credit scores (or govt credentials) will be able to drive in some areas. Some animals are more equal...
 
How about, government, all of government including the feds, have endless money.

Use it for the roads and everything else and get out of our lives.
 
Just to point out the blatantly obvious, it will be used for fines and fees. Speeding? Automatic ticket deduction from your account. Go through a stop sign or red light? Autoticket.

Now some may say they can remotely limit your speed, but why do that if they can make some revenue instead? But they could shut down your vehicle if you attempt to drive somewhere they ban you from going. Only those with appropriate social credit scores (or govt credentials) will be able to drive in some areas. Some animals are more equal...

And there you have it...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Brian4Liberty again.
 
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