****Operation St. Paul has launched! Pics here!****

AdamT said:
Some bad news.....the MOA just pulled The High Tide. Reason: too political. The ad exec girl was apologizing left and right, but I'm still bummed, and there's nothing I can do about it :(

The good news....the ad did run for 2 full days and thousands saw it, we're probably the first to ever run a politically charged ad like that in the history of the Mall. And even through it ran for 2 days, they're giving us a full refund. So we can use the funds for something else later.

The other good news....all billboards are staying up and the digital one starts tomorrow :)
And we made the MN press.

Please do not call the Mall and complain.
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Well, I suppose since you got 2 totally free days of runtime out of it, and get a full refund, it's all good. Maybe you guys should contact the folks who donated the money and ask them how they want it spent now?
 
UtahApocalypse said:
This AD is Time sensitive though. So now you can only seek legal Redress since you have lost valuable time on a Time sensitive investment. CALL A LAWYER!!!
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I looked in the contract and it says "....per Mall Of America approval". It's curious though that it made it in for 2 days?
 
AdamT said:
I looked in the contract and it says "....per Mall Of America approval". It's curious though that it made it in for 2 days?
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I would still have a lawyer look at this. I think you easily could be able to get more money back since it was a time critical investment. see now that you were screwed by them you don't really have the time to get any other advertising with that money. I forget what the legal term is but I know for a fact that it can be brought for a civil case.
 
AdamT said:
Some bad news.....the MOA just pulled The High Tide. Reason: too political. The ad exec girl was apologizing left and right, but I'm still bummed, and there's nothing I can do about it :(

The good news....the ad did run for 2 full days and thousands saw it, we're probably the first to ever run a politically charged ad like that in the history of the Mall. And even through it ran for 2 days, they're giving us a full refund. So we can use the funds for something else later.

The other good news....all billboards are staying up and the digital one starts tomorrow :)
And we made the MN press.

Please do not call the Mall and complain.
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As long as they are giving you a full refund, I think the message was well-played.
 
UtahApocalypse said:
I would still have a lawyer look at this. I think you easily could be able to get more money back since it was a time critical investment. see now that you were screwed by them you don't really have the time to get any other advertising with that money. I forget what the legal term is but I know for a fact that it can be brought for a civil case.
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That's a good point.
 
Seems MoA did them a great favor between giving them DEEP discounts and giving them two days free.

They probably pulled it after receiving complaints from mall-goers who dislike Paul & his message. Don't think it's worth the resources to complain to MoA and definitely not to sue (which would take too long anyways).


The ads up are great and will hopefully do us some good and get us some interest and recognition. I'd like to see them go up on more billboards if there's time, but if there's another project looking for funding, that's cool too. Thanks for all your work!
 
AdamT said:
Some bad news.....the MOA just pulled The High Tide. Reason: too political. The ad exec girl was apologizing left and right, but I'm still bummed, and there's nothing I can do about it :(

The good news....the ad did run for 2 full days and thousands saw it, we're probably the first to ever run a politically charged ad like that in the history of the Mall. And even through it ran for 2 days, they're giving us a full refund. So we can use the funds for something else later.

The other good news....all billboards are staying up and the digital one starts tomorrow :)
And we made the MN press.

Please do not call the Mall and complain.
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so much for spending money at that mall;)
 
I'm sorry it got pulled. I'm sure the Republican Party had something to do with it, though.
 
I'm not crazy about suing people as a general rule. I would keep an eye on the Mall Of America and there damn sure better not be any McCain or GOP ads if the Ron Paul ad was "too political".
 
Kludge said:
Seems MoA did them a great favor between giving them DEEP discounts and giving them two days free.

They probably pulled it after receiving complaints from mall-goers who dislike Paul & his message. Don't think it's worth the resources to complain to MoA and definitely not to sue (which would take too long anyways).


The ads up are great and will hopefully do us some good and get us some interest and recognition. I'd like to see them go up on more billboards if there's time, but if there's another project looking for funding, that's cool too. Thanks for all your work!
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First, I'd like to say this is good stuff!! I'm glad some Ads got put up around town.

I agree with Kludge, it was pulled due to complaints from people who don't like Dr. Paul and his message. It's true, critical remarks are played in the video, but to call it "too political" seems over the top. It doesn't promote any political party at all, only a message of Freedom that Dr. Paul talked about during his campaign, one that he already suspended. Oh, and did they forget, Dr. Paul has an event over at The Target Center, this advertisement promotes that event!!

They probably never get complaints, so a few got them scared. You might even asked them what specifically people found offensive?? Their response could prove interesting about the real reason they pulled it.

I say, tell them to keep the money and run the video, as you don't have anywhere else to run it on such short notice!!


FF

Edit: Just a thought. This wasn't pulled from complaints from local shoppers, it was pulled when some RNC people saw it, since they're already in St. Paul setting things up. Again, I say pressure them back and force the issue. Find out who complained. If it's McCain people, F them, run it!!!
 
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That's very disappointing they pulled the ad. I was so looking forward to seeing it this weekend too.
 
Call the MOA and tell them the march is going through there and thousands of people will be coming through looking for the Ron Paul ad and those people may not be happy with MOA if it is not showing. Tell them that any money returned will likely be spent on a lawsuit to recover damages. They will probably never run another ad for us anyway, since they would all be "political", so what is the harm?

Lawsuits and threats of lawsuits may not seem desirable, but may be our only weapon short of the 2nd amendment. Management was probably bribed or threatened with something, maybe lawsuits.

The ad was approved by MOA or it would have never run.

PS great work guys, regardless of MOA. I didn't see this till today! WOOHOO!
 
Devvy Kidd/NWV linked to this thread/pictures

Sally08 said:
From: "Devvy Kidd" -snip-
Subject: RE: ****Operation St. Paul has launched! Pics here!****
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:05:52 -0500

Thank you [***to stay safe!] and thanx for sending this along. I'll put it in my next column for Monday.
Devvy
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http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd386.htm
TED, MICHELLE & HILLARY: "FAMILY VALUES"
By: Devvy
September 1, 2008

© 2008 - NewsWithViews.com

When I return from St. Paul, I'll do a column on the convention along with a photo array as I saw events unfold. For live updates, I'll be calling in to Jeff Rense's radio show on September 2nd and 4th during the first hour both nights. Please see his web site for times and how to listen. Operation St. Paul pictures launched; see here. [http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=151862]
 
I saw the big billboard ad next to the Target Center. Great job! It looked very good.

I only wish it had been "too political". It looked like an ad for the Revolution book, and there's certainly nothing wrong with that, but I'd like to see something that invokes mental images of pirates swinging in and cutting down the sails and taking over the ship of state! :)

I guess there's a limit to what advertisers will tolerate, but we need to send a strong message that wakes up the sleeping masses, if that's even possible.

Great Rally for the Republic, and great Operation St. Paul!

Thank you!
 
such an amazing project and results - great work.

btw, were there any McCain/RNC billboards around town?
 
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