Operation International Outreach

[tangent4ronpaul]

Operation International Outreach

The key here is that the International press is not controlled by those same monopolies that control the press in the USA, but international stories do make their way into the USA via newswire. There are also many Americans working overseas or in the military that this could reach. That the US media is suppressing Dr. Paul will make him very popular in any country that does not like US foreign policy.

There is an international poll going on right now, please vote in it:

http://www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/

In the United States, we are winning by a large margin, but basically loosing everywhere else. Sooo... once you vote, don't stop there – look at the list of countries and pick a couple at random, maybe based on the first letter of your first or last name. Then A) find message forums specific to that country (ideally in that country), join it, and post a pro Ron Paul piece and encourage people to vote in this poll.
Ex-patriot forums and those for military personnel stationed overseas might be good bets.

Then B) locate international papers in those countries and write a Letter to the Editor to those papers urging the same. In promoting Dr. Paul, it would probably be best to focus on his Non-Interventionist policies and wanting to pull out of Iraq.

http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/
http://www.ipl.org/div/news/
http://www.nettizen.com/newspaper/
http://dir.yahoo.com/News_and_Media/Newspapers/By_Region/Countries/
http://library.uncg.edu/news/
http://www.abyznewslinks.com/
http://www.refdesk.com/paper.html
http://www.newslink.org/news.html
(the last one lists US campus papers too! - FYI)

Finally, If one doesn't already exist and you have started a Meetup and have some left to seed (you get 3 for the cost of 1) start a Ron Paul Meetup in that country. It would probably be best to do this first, so you can hype it in the first 2 steps and get people to join. Here is a incomplete list of International Meetups that exist already:

CANADA
Montreal Canada
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/22/
Jacques Grondin
5617 Smart Ave.
Cote St Luc, QC, CA, H4W2M4
514-484-3129
[email protected]

Toronto, ON, Canada
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/99/
Lynne Moguin
Roy Moguin


ENGLAND
Edinburgh, England
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/82/
Michael Clouser
[email protected]
Vonage: +1.607.330.2576
efax +1.413.502.4949

London, United Kingdom
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/362/
Paige

SOUTH KOREA
Seoul, South Korea
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/173/
George Whitfield

Niigata, Japan
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/436/
Mike Perrin

Berlin, Germany
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/440/
Paul Thams

Satratov, Russia
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/442/
Andrew Eckel

Baghdad, Iraq
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/451/
David Watson

Dunedin, New Zealand
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/452/
Scott

Calgary, AB, Canada
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/487/
Brian Fisher

Athlone, Ireland
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/515/
Micheal Pleamoinn

Vancouver, BC, Canada
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/533/
Chris Wiebe

Bratislava, Slovakia (Americans in Europe)
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/583/
Ben Novak

thanks,

Nathan

 

[MicroBalrog]

Whyis this important? After all, Ron Paul isn't running for President of Germany, is he?

 

[Nefertiti]

It's an AMERICAN election

This will NOT help us and is a violation of Ron Paul's principles. Encouraging foreigners to get involved in swaying a US election is as bad as the US influencing foreign elections. Ron Paul is against foreign interventionism and it would really be a bad thing if we tried to win his election by inviting foreigners to intervene.

If we need foreign support to win this election then frankly we don't deserve Ron Paul as president.

 

[Spike Kojima]

Ron Paul is doing surprisingly well overseas on that poll. (hes teh winzor of internetz)
I think any foreigner would be happy with Ron after Bush.

Ron Paul may not be on the top in Crapganistan or former Yugostania but when he starts pulling out the troops he will be a international folk hero.

Also be careful asking for help from overseas. I remember the British news paper "The Guardian" had a letter writing campaign to get Kerry elected last time and it led to a backlash.

 

[Brasil Branco]

You guys seem to forget that there is a HUGE expat community in countries such as Germany and England.

If you remember, the 2000 Elections rested and both the Florida vote and the international vote.

I don't think it's that bad of an idea, but think it's something you should take on with the meetup groups.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

The point is to to hit both the international media - and that bypasses the corporate monopoly stranglehold on US media AND to reach out to 2 very important voting blocks that reside overseas:

US citizens working or living overseas

US soldiers stationed overseas

If Iraqi's, for example, like him - that is newsworthy in the US press.

what's your problem?

-n

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

You guys seem to forget that there is a HUGE expat community in countries such as Germany and England.

If you remember, the 2000 Elections rested and both the Florida vote and the international vote.

I don't think it's that bad of an idea, but think it's something you should take on with the meetup groups.

btw: it has been taken up with the meetup groups....

-n

 

[SeanEdwards]

This will NOT help us and is a violation of Ron Paul's principles. Encouraging foreigners to get involved in swaying a US election is as bad as the US influencing foreign elections. Ron Paul is against foreign interventionism and it would really be a bad thing if we tried to win his election by inviting foreigners to intervene.

If we need foreign support to win this election then frankly we don't deserve Ron Paul as president.

I respectfully disagree. I think Paul probably welcomes the images of our friends in France holding up a Ron Paul sign in front of the Eifel Tower, and other such images of international support. I suspect any of the other candidates for President of either party would pay huge sums if they thought that money would translate into such an outpouring of international grassroots support.

The freedom message unites us, it doesn't divide us. This international support also goes a long way to counter the attack on Paul that he is an isolationist.

 

[ghemminger]

Thanks for posting this...I think it might be helpful for Grassroots Donations:

 

[ghemminger]

GrassRoots Need YOUR SUPPORT!!!

Reports are still coming in....It looks like we had a successful event....below is a blog and a thread that is probably typical of what happened across the country...don't expect to read about in the MSM....Take care... Want to put another National Event SOON. Looks like 30+ States and 600-800+ participants.

http://www.itsmynet.info/GARKO.blog/?p=439

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=14425

http://dailypaul.com/node/1655

http://dailypaul.com/node/1654


I would like the next event to focus on fundraising with participants raising money from pledges...

If you would like to support this effort please donate to:
http://www.marchacrossamerica.blogspot.com/
http://www.RonPaulRadio.US/allamericawalk.html
www.RonPaulradio.com

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

You guys seem to forget that there is a HUGE expat community in countries such as Germany and England.

If you remember, the 2000 Elections rested and both the Florida vote and the international vote.

I don't think it's that bad of an idea, but think it's something you should take on with the meetup groups.

The point is to to hit both the international media - and that bypasses the corporate monopoly stranglehold on US media AND to reach out to 2 very important voting blocks that reside overseas:

US citizens working or living overseas

US soldiers stationed overseas

If Iraqi's, for example, like him - that is newsworthy in the US press.

what's your problem?

-n

I would like to see an honest discussion of this issue. I think this a great idea.

This is a different road we are on than any election in my lifetime. We are feeling the warmth, from the torch of Liberty, that Ron Paul has been keeping alive all these years. It is irresistable. To try to stilfle this spontaneous ignition is ridiculous. Cat herders make me laugh...

We seek succeed by offering suggestions for growth and providing assistance when we can; not by shutting down someones enthusiam with curt dismissals.

Why do some consider this a bad idea?

How can we make it good?

mahalo...

m

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

anyone?

-n

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

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[Nefertiti]

Why do some consider this a bad idea?

How can we make it good?

mahalo...

m

I am one of those who considers it a bad idea. I'm an American who has lived overseas, and even acquired foreign citizenship. First of all, we need the votes of Americans, not foreigners. Support of foreigners is a bonus, not a goal nor should it be a strategy in itself. Those expats are not necessarily getting their news from the BBC if they live in the UK or any other local media. If they have the internet they can get their news from their local hometown newspaper in the US if they want. Don't overestimate the power of the foreign media on Americans overseas. These days, they don't need it to get their information. If they aren't on the internet, chances are they may have access to International Herald Tribune, or Time or Newsweek.

I also have tried promoting Ron Paul to people with foreign connections, ie married to foreigners, living overseas, etc. I stressed his foreign policy views and how he would make things better in the countries where these people live and have connections. Went over like a lead balloon. These people said they would be voting for whoever had America's best interests at heart, not the interests of other countries, even though it could be to their personal benefit. I can only imagine why these people reacted this way but I think they have been brainwashed by years of Bush and his you are with us or against us mentality. No American wants to look like a traitor maybe.

It is important to get the expat vote, but we don't need anything more than that from overseas. In fact, I will be discreet and not name names, but there is at least one participant in these forums that is not American who is behind Ron Paul because he thinks it will be bad for his country's neighbors, one which happens to be the other country I am a citizen of. I don't agree with that nor do I think it is much in the spirit of Ron Paul's non-interventionism, but it shows how we don't want to draw foreigners into this campaign. We need to keep the eye on the goal that will unite everyone who can vote in this election, and that is what is for the benefit of Americans. We have to express Ron Paul's foreign policy views in terms of the benefits they will bring us back home.

 

[swissmiss]

In fact, I will be discreet and not name names, but there is at least one participant in these forums that is not American who is behind Ron Paul because he thinks it will be bad for his country's neighbors, one which happens to be the other country I am a citizen of. I don't agree with that nor do I think it is much in the spirit of Ron Paul's non-interventionism, but it shows how we don't want to draw foreigners into this campaign.

I don't get it. So, because someone in this forum is an idiot, you do not wan't my money? I have written tens of letters to Iowans, talked all my American friends into at least researching RP and indirectly donated to the campain and intend to do so in the future. So that's a bad idea, because?

Most countries have special chambers for American-foreign business relations, targeting them might be a good idea. RPs opposition to SOX does wonders here.

(Btw you forgot to list my meetup group nr.800 in Switzerland)

 

[ronpaulhawaii]

...First of all, we need the votes of Americans, not foreigners.

One would think that goes without saying

Support of foreigners is a bonus,...

I agree,

...not a goal nor should it be a strategy in itself. Those expats are not necessarily getting their news from the BBC if they live in the UK or any other local media. If they have the internet they can get their news from their local hometown newspaper in the US if they want. Don't overestimate the power of the foreign media on Americans overseas. These days, they don't need it to get their information. If they aren't on the internet, chances are they may have access to International Herald Tribune, or Time or Newsweek.

I don't understand what this has to do with your contention; that encouraging our overseas friends to help is a bad thing.

I also have tried promoting Ron Paul to people with foreign connections, ie married to foreigners, living overseas, etc. I stressed his foreign policy views and how he would make things better in the countries where these people live and have connections. Went over like a lead balloon.

Perhaps that was a bad approach, I would have stessed that an RP presidency would increase the respect we have in the world, would lead to an economic revival of the American Dream and would, sure as anything, make the world a safer place for everyone, especially us hated 'mericans.

These people said they would be voting for whoever had America's best interests at heart, not the interests of other countries, even though it could be to their personal benefit. I can only imagine why these people reacted this way but I think they have been brainwashed by years of Bush and his you are with us or against us mentality. No American wants to look like a traitor maybe.

Better to look like one, than to be one... Really Nef, perhaps you choose the wrong angle for the crowd and weren't quick enough to change tacks...

It is important to get the expat vote, but we don't need anything more than that from overseas.

I respectfully disagree. I welcome anyone who truthfully supports RP and is willing to do something to better the planet we all live on

In fact, I will be discreet and not name names, but there is at least one participant in these forums that is not American who is behind Ron Paul because he thinks it will be bad for his country's neighbors, one which happens to be the other country I am a citizen of. I don't agree with that nor do I think it is much in the spirit of Ron Paul's non-interventionism, but it shows how we don't want to draw foreigners into this campaign.

To me it only shows that you and he dis-agree about regional politics. Are you saying we should discourage his support because he believes it will hurt the country you are a citizen of? That seems like a double standard and makes a good case for getting rid of dual citizenship.

We need to keep the eye on the goal that will unite everyone who can vote in this election, and that is what is for the benefit of Americans. We have to express Ron Paul's foreign policy views in terms of the benefits they will bring us back home.

You mean benefits like a reversal of the hatred most the world has for us, like eliminating the #1 recruiting tool of nefarious cretins like Bin-Lyin, you mean a change in the banking world that will spur honest growth and prosperity. These are the things the world complains of, so IMHO, the world has very right to cheer on Dr. Paul. It's much better than seeing them protesting us.

I don't get it. So, because someone in this forum is an idiot, you do not wan't my money? I have written tens of letters to Iowans, talked all my American friends into at least researching RP and indirectly donated to the campain and intend to do so in the future. So that's a bad idea, because?

Most countries have special chambers for American-foreign business relations, targeting them might be a good idea. RPs opposition to SOX does wonders here.

(Btw you forgot to list my meetup group nr.800 in Switzerland)

Thanks SwissMiss The truth seems to be that the vast majority of us appreciate your active concern and help. I certainly do

with much aloha,

mkauai

 

[DjLoTi]

I welcome international support with open arms, as I just got back from Europe and quite frankly they were much nicer then Americans. haha

really though, they need Ron Paul more then we do. If we can get there help by spreading the word and helping the movement, so be it. This isn't an election. This is a *revolution*. Things work differently now.

ps - I love/miss europe

 

[jonahtrainer]

Whyis this important? After all, Ron Paul isn't running for President of Germany, is he?

This is important because there are so many expats who have left the country. They are usually rich; educated and monetarily.

I did a search for Ron Paul with a bunch of expats in Panama who share a listserv and found the last post containing the term "Ron Paul" was from Feb 9, 2007 with an article by Dr. Paul entitled "Govt should not wonder why expats are increasing"

So, I blasted out to my list the question "Would anyone consider returning to the US if Ron Paul were elected President in 2008" with a cite to the original article on the listserv.

Should generate some interesting discussion!

 

[1776blues]

The world is watching us in 2008

This will NOT help us and is a violation of Ron Paul's principles. Encouraging foreigners to get involved in swaying a US election is as bad as the US influencing foreign elections. Ron Paul is against foreign interventionism and it would really be a bad thing if we tried to win his election by inviting foreigners to intervene.

If we need foreign support to win this election then frankly we don't deserve Ron Paul as president.

What principles are you speaking of? Intervention? If this is what you speak of I believe you have it wrong, Ron is against Governments intervening. The world has an opinion and it is important. So, how would they be intervening? They are not voting. This is important to get out because if people here see who the world supports and why (our reputation) it could convince the undecided to vote for Ron Paul.

Besides I agree with this post by tangent4ronpaul
The point is to to hit both the international media - and that bypasses the corporate monopoly stranglehold on US media AND to reach out to 2 very important voting blocks that reside overseas:

US citizens working or living overseas

US soldiers stationed overseas

If Iraqi's, for example, like him - that is newsworthy in the US press.

Lets face it our voting system has been compromised and foreign companies own some of the machines and felons are counting votes

From http://thelandesreport.com/VotingSecurity.htm
Can a voting machine company be owned by foreigners and run by felons? Yes. Sequoia is the third largest voting machine company in America and is owned by a British-based company, De La Rue. Diebold is the second largest voting machine company in the country. It counts about 35% of all votes in America. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states. Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree. Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years