Operation 'Choke Point'! DOJ cuts off gun sellers' access to working capital!

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Feds targeting gun sellers as ‘high risk,’ same category as Ponzi schemes (VIDEO)

The Federal Deposit Insurance Company has labeled companies in the gun and ammo industry “high risk,” which is theoretically arming the Justice Department with the power to limit or cut off their access to working capital.

This story was reported extensively this week by the Washington Post, which discovered that the FDIC has, since 2011, urged banks to better manage the risks of their merchant customers who employ payment processors, such as PayPal, for credit card transactions.

In tandem with this guidance from the nation’s guarantor of banks, the DOJ in 2013 launched a program, along with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, known as “Operation Choke Point,” which focuses on the transactions of these same payment processors.

“This administration has very clearly told the banking industry which customers they feel represent ‘reputational risk’ to do business with,” said Peter Weinstock, a lawyer at Hunton & Williams LLP.

Besides the gun and ammunition industry, this list of high-risk merchant categories includes Ponzi schemes, dating and escort services, drug paraphernalia shops, racists material makers, pornography and online gambling.


Many argue that this has directly effected gun makers and retailers ability to obtain credit and financing.

In 2013, for example, GE Capital quietly began cutting off lines of credit to gun shops nationwide. The year before, both McMillan International and American Sprint Arms were dropped by Bank of America.

BoA at first defended its actions by claiming American Sprint sold guns illegally online, although all transactions were, by law, conducted through Federal Firearms License holders.

“This seems to be happening with greater frequency and to many more dealers,” said Joe Sirochman, owner of American Spirit Arms.

This has brought gun-rights groups as diverse as the National Rifle Association and Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership out in opposition of this increase in federal banking scrutiny.

“Gun control proponents, having achieved only limited success in the legislative arena, have without question sought additional avenues for restrictions through the business community,” stated a report from the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action earlier this month on Operation Choke Point.

However the NRA urges caution, by saying, “While all of these developments deserve close attention, we have not substantiated that they are part of an overarching federal conspiracy to suppress lawful commerce in firearms and ammunition, or that the federal government has an official policy of using financial regulators to drive firearm or ammunition companies out of business.”

Meanwhile, Operation Choke Point has also garnered Congressional attention. In January, Rep. Darrell Issa, (R-Calif.), who chairs the House Oversight Committee asked Attorney General Eric Holder for more information that led to a hearing last month in front of the House Committee on Financial Services with Choke Point at the center of discussion.

“It’s pretty clear,” says Rep. Steve Stockman, (R-Texas), “that unless Congress uses the power of the purse to stop him, Barack Obama will use his ‘phone and his pen’ to ban guns by cutting off money for gun manufacturers and dealers.”

Video in article is worth the watch. http://www.guns.com/2014/05/20/feds...igh-risk-same-category-as-ponzi-schemes-video
 
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I just sent this article to the GOA. They don't have anything on their website about it yet. And of course, the NRA doesn't seem too concerned.
 
"Operation Choke Point" ?????? It's pretty clear what they're up to given the DOJ's name of the program.

Folks, if they succeed in taking away our gun rights through attrition, they will succeed in completing their goal of a totalitarian regime. Plain. And. Simple.
 
This right here tells me we should be up in arms:

However the NRA urges caution, by saying, “While all of these developments deserve close attention, we have not substantiated that they are part of an overarching federal conspiracy to suppress lawful commerce in firearms and ammunition, or that the federal government has an official policy of using financial regulators to drive firearm or ammunition companies out of business.

GOA is so much better than NRA.
 
I'm interested, I just don't know what to say yet. Glad you sent it to the GOA, and this is definitely another small step towards making guns illegal.

For me they are already illegal..

But what does it matter if folks are unwilling to use the ones they have for their intended purpose.

And if that intended purpose ever comes about,, they can be acquired from those that are carrying them.

there is at least one in the trunk of every police car in the country.

http://www.guns.com/2013/04/29/richardsons-philippine-guerrilla-gun-a-gun-to-get-a-gun/
 
I posted on this a couple days ago when it appeared on Drudge. It got two replies. I guess stuff like this doesn't really surprise us any more.

Actually, when I see people becoming quiet...

If you need that sentence completed, then ask.
 
I posted on this a couple days ago when it appeared on Drudge. It got two replies. I guess stuff like this doesn't really surprise us any more.

Not us, but I still think we should still disseminate it everywhere we can, and give the gun sellers our support, as well Congressman Issa for wanting to know more about what these pricks are up to. Operation Choke Point! I'd like someone to ask them what the hell THAT'S supposed to mean!! :mad:
 
Not surprising, save the fact that this was not done far sooner. It is clear that the legislative route is not going to succeed for any of several reasons that would also include people waving that "special" finger at any enacted laws such as we have been seeing in CT and NY. That places Themme and their lapdogs in what must be the undesirable position of having to choose to escalate or back down, and we all know how much they love the latter.

And because even passage of ever more restrictive legislation whose effectiveness increases but as the logarithm of the degree of its draconian character, why bother when you can simply drive them out of business with policy calls? Honestly, it perplexes me as to why Theye have failed to use this until now... possibly indicating that they are not as bright as I'd thought... just well heeled and endlessly treacherous.

IMO, this could really work, too. The only hope there would be the existence of small "niche" lenders who give the least damn about "reputation risk"... Jesus, what hopelessly transparent threat that one is. No access to capital is a fatal condition for business. Nearly all businesses will need a bridge loan at one time or another, even if just to make payroll while ARs come in. Without such access, a business could well have to change payment terms, say, eliminating 30-day or more intervals and requiring cash upon delivery or even upfront. That can be a killer. Without access, capital for significant expansions and other major projects either have to wait, be abandoned, or the company must become its own bank. Anyone with the least shred of business management experience will tell you that large amounts of cash laying around, idle, is a VERY bad use of the capital and most businesses are neither interested in nor savvy enough to keep that capital in highly liquid and very short term current instruments. Short-term also means poo returns, not to mention the fact that most investments appear not to even be keeping up with inflation these days, which is not a good sign.

They could invest in PMs, but even that carries risk, but perhaps less than putting everything on 33 Red, which is basically what investment instruments are these days.

Perhaps the next-worst aspect of this is that it may prove unassailable in the courts. Actuaries made the calculations, which are probably bullshit at least in part, and those numbers alone will place the companies well within reason to reject making loans as threats. This would be a very difficult angle to fight in a courtroom, IMO. They will present numbers, characterize them as "unassailable", and that would likely be the end of it.

And even if a plaintiff won, they still lose because the companies would continue to refuse to write paper on this basis and would sooner spend the time in court, driving you further into the hole than give in to reason. They'd rather get dragged into court ten times, costing themselves, say, ten million dollars than incur (in their minds anyhow) branding losses, which is very serious business, and that to which the banks apparently have been trained to fear.
 
I worry to the contrary. To me it feels like people are becoming desensitized to all the violations.

Did you hear the call for the Bundy ranch?
The call went out,, and many responded,, before anything was heard in the media.

When the media reported that the militia were coming,,, they were already there.. in place and with a plan. (rules of engagement understood)

Most were never seen.

This needs to be repeated,, often.
 
(Note the NRA's use of the waffle-word "lawful" - I trust that it does not need to be explained why this is cover-your-ass double-talk ...)

However the NRA urges caution, by saying, “While all of these developments deserve close attention, we have not substantiated that they are part of an overarching federal conspiracy to suppress lawful commerce in firearms and ammunition, or that the federal government has an official policy of using financial regulators to drive firearm or ammunition companies out of business.”

However Occam's Banana urges caution, by saying, "While all of these developments deserve close attention, I have not substantiated that the NRA is part of an overarching effort to oppose the suppression of rightful commerce in firearms and ammunition, or that the NRA has an official policy of having a spine when it comes to defending gun rights."
 
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