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They've obviously been reading too much MSM coverage lately.

CONTACT THEM - Ron Paul is still in the race!


http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp

They took down Ron Paul - but left Alan Keyes?!?!? wtf.:eek:

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It seems several people have already contacted them. They send everyone the same letter justifying their decision:

Mr./Mrs./Ms. ***,

While we appreciate your enthusiasm for your candidate, the Center for Responsive Politics made the decision to remove Rep. Paul from our list of active presidential candidates on OpenSecrets.org after carefully reviewing the congressman's own words and actions.

In his March 6 video message to supporters, Congressman Paul does not explicitly say "I'm dropping out," but his remarks sounded remarkably like those parting words of every other Republican and Democratic candidate who has ended, suspended or otherwise ceased actively campaigning for president in 2008. "Though victory in the conventional political sense is not available in the presidential race, many victories have been achieved due to your hard work and enthusiasm" – what Rep. Paul said – is the same central message we've heard this year from the many other candidates who were once in this race: I may not have won, but this campaign achieved something and will continue—just not as a presidential campaign this year. For instance, Mitt Romney's campaign announced in February that he was "suspending" his campaign for the Republican nomination, not "ending" it, so we moved him shortly thereafter to the list of inactive candidates.

Secondly, Rep. Paul's focus in the last month or so on his congressional primary in Texas, followed by his resounding win there, indicated to us that he sees himself as a candidate for re-election to the House of Representatives, not as a candidate for president. OpenSecrets.org does list him as an active candidate in the Texas-14 race, and we will continue to do so.

Thirdly, once John McCain secured enough delegates last week to become the Republican Party's presidential nominee, we felt comfortable moving Rep. Paul to the list of inactive candidates following his March 6 video message, along with other candidates who have come up short in the delegate race and delivered similar valedictions. Republican Alan Keyes remains on our list, along with Mike Gravel on the Democratic roster of candidates, pending an announcement from the candidate similar to what we've heard from Rep. Paul and others.

That a candidate remains on the primary ballot in some states is not sufficient reason to continue including him among active candidates, in the Center's view. Many of the other candidates who have dropped out remain on ballots for which they qualified long ago.

Furthermore, that the candidate's supporters say he is a candidate, or want him to remain a candidate, is not sufficient reason for us to continue including him among active candidates. We interpret the candidate's own statements when making our decisions.

In addition to monitoring Rep. Paul's continued fundraising for his House re-election race, we will continue to process and analyze his presidential campaign finance reports, just as we will continue to process the data for the other candidates who were once actively campaigning for president.

Should Rep. Paul or one of his aides wish to make the case that he is still actively running for president, please invite them to contact the Center to discuss this.

Thanks for your inquiry, and for using OpenSecrets.org.

*** ***

Communications Director

After Ron Paul's CNN and Fox News appearances yesterday stating that he's still in the race, it'd be interesting to see if they still insist he's out of it (because of electability or for whatever reason). They're supposed to be one of the best political websites on the internet. We'll see...
 
It seems several people have already contacted them. They send everyone the same letter justifying their decision:



After Ron Paul's CNN and Fox News appearances yesterday stating that he's still in the race, it'd be interesting to see if they still insist he's out of it (because of electability or for whatever reason). They're supposed to be one of the best political websites on the internet. We'll see...


Look at the paragraph they have for Ron Paul. They say "even though he hasn't officially quit...."


Besides at this point I don't want the fundraising numbers out. McCain already killed us and now RP even took the donation graph off of his site. Stating the fundraising numbers would accomplish nothing.
 
Stating the fundraising numbers would accomplish nothing.
I don't think it's even about the fundraising numbers at this point. It's simply the fact that Ron Paul is still in the race and a trusted website like OpenSecrets.org insists otherwise. CRP can do what they want, of course, but I'll be more wary of the information they put out in the future.
 
MAJOR FUNDING FOR CRP:

Carnegie Corporation of New York
$500,100
April 1, 2006 to March 31, 2009
*

Ford Foundation
$300,000
January 1, 2007 to December 31, 2008
*

Sunlight Foundation
$264,375
January 1, 2007 to December 31, 2007
*

Pew Charitable Trusts
$900,000
January 9, 2006 to November 30, 2007
*

Joyce Foundation
$281,250
September 1, 2006 to February 29, 2008
*

Cloud Mountain Foundation
$10,000
 
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They've obviously been reading too much MSM coverage lately.

CONTACT THEM - Ron Paul is still in the race!


http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp

They took down Ron Paul - but left Alan Keyes?!?!? wtf.:eek:

Contact Info


http://www.opensecrets.org/about/index.asp

That certainly isn't right to leave Alan Keyes' name up. But for all intents and purposes, Ron is not in the race any longer. I hope he continues to spread his message, and who knows ... maybe things will change in 4 years or so, but sadly I'm not expecting Ron to run for President again. It was a shame.

Like the others, I put the blame on the Campaign and perhaps Ron for not bringing in some more experienced people to manage the campaign.

The campaign members came across as nothing short of arrogant ... especially in that one video where the Woman was pretty much saying "oh, well" to blowing off Ron's originally scheduled appearance on Glenn Beck. Not professional to do so the day of the show, to say the least. But even worse for the campaign to act like it was no big deal.
 
I emailed them today and this was the response I got...

While we appreciate your enthusiasm for your candidate, the Center for
Responsive Politics made the decision to remove Rep. Paul from our list
of active presidential candidates on OpenSecrets.org after carefully
reviewing the congressman's own words and actions.

In his March 6 video message to supporters, Congressman Paul does not
explicitly say "I'm dropping out," but his remarks sounded remarkably
like those parting words of every other Republican and Democratic
candidate who has ended, suspended or otherwise ceased actively
campaigning for president in 2008. "Though victory in the conventional
political sense is not available in the presidential race, many
victories have been achieved due to your hard work and enthusiasm" –
what Rep. Paul said – is the same central message we've heard this year
from the many other candidates who were once in this race: I may not
have won, but this campaign achieved something and will continue—just
not as a presidential campaign this year. For instance, Mitt Romney's
campaign announced in February that he was "suspending" his campaign for
the Republican nomination, not "ending" it, so we moved him shortly
thereafter to the list of inactive candidates.

Secondly, Rep. Paul's focus in the last month or so on his congressional
primary in Texas, followed by his resounding win there, indicated to us
that he sees himself as a candidate for re-election to the House of
Representatives, not as a candidate for president. OpenSecrets.org does
list him as an active candidate in the Texas-14 race
<http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.asp?id=TX14&cycle=2008>, and
we will continue to do so.

Thirdly, once John McCain secured enough delegates last week to become
the Republican Party's presidential nominee, we felt comfortable moving
Rep. Paul to the list of inactive candidates following his March 6 video
message, along with other candidates who have come up short in the
delegate race and delivered similar valedictions. Republican Alan Keyes
remains on our list, along with Mike Gravel on the Democratic roster of
candidates, pending an announcement from the candidate similar to what
we've heard from Rep. Paul and others.

That a candidate remains on the primary ballot in some states is not
sufficient reason to continue including him among active candidates, in
the Center's view. Many of the other candidates who have dropped out
remain on ballots for which they qualified long ago.

Furthermore, that the candidate's supporters say he is a candidate, or
want him to remain a candidate, is not sufficient reason for us to
continue including him among active candidates. We interpret the
candidate's own statements when making our decisions.

In addition to monitoring Rep. Paul's continued fundraising for his
House re-election race, we will continue to process and analyze his
presidential campaign finance reports
<http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008>,
just as we will continue to process the data for the other candidates
who were once actively campaigning for president.

Should Rep. Paul or one of his aides wish to make the case that he is
still actively running for president, please invite them to contact the
Center to discuss this.

Thanks for your inquiry, and for using OpenSecrets.org.

Julie Kinzer

Center for Responsive Politics
 
I saw this early and didnt give a sh*t, MSM or nonMSM is biased and we cant do anything about it.
 
Mr. Diehl,



While we appreciate your enthusiasm for your candidate, the Center for Responsive Politics made the decision to remove Rep. Paul from our list of active presidential candidates on OpenSecrets.org after carefully reviewing the congressman's own words and actions.



In his March 6 video message to supporters, Congressman Paul does not explicitly say "I'm dropping out," but his remarks sounded remarkably like those parting words of every other Republican and Democratic candidate who has ended, suspended or otherwise ceased actively campaigning for president in 2008. "Though victory in the conventional political sense is not available in the presidential race, many victories have been achieved due to your hard work and enthusiasm" – what Rep. Paul said – is the same central message we've heard this year from the many other candidates who were once in this race: I may not have won, but this campaign achieved something and will continue—just not as a presidential campaign this year. For instance, Mitt Romney's campaign announced in February that he was "suspending" his campaign for the Republican nomination, not "ending" it, so we moved him shortly thereafter to the list of inactive candidates.



Secondly, Rep. Paul's focus in the last month or so on his congressional primary in Texas, followed by his resounding win there, indicated to us that he sees himself as a candidate for re-election to the House of Representatives, not as a candidate for president. OpenSecrets.org does list him as an active candidate in the Texas-14 race, and we will continue to do so.



Thirdly, once John McCain secured enough delegates last week to become the Republican Party's presidential nominee, we felt comfortable moving Rep. Paul to the list of inactive candidates following his March 6 video message, along with other candidates who have come up short in the delegate race and delivered similar valedictions. Republican Alan Keyes remains on our list, along with Mike Gravel on the Democratic roster of candidates, pending an announcement from the candidate similar to what we've heard from Rep. Paul and others.



That a candidate remains on the primary ballot in some states is not sufficient reason to continue including him among active candidates, in the Center's view. Many of the other candidates who have dropped out remain on ballots for which they qualified long ago.



Furthermore, that the candidate's supporters say he is a candidate, or want him to remain a candidate, is not sufficient reason for us to continue including him among active candidates. We interpret the candidate's own statements when making our decisions.



In addition to monitoring Rep. Paul's continued fundraising for his House re-election race, we will continue to process and analyze his presidential campaign finance reports, just as we will continue to process the data for the other candidates who were once actively campaigning for president.



Should Rep. Paul or one of his aides wish to make the case that he is still actively running for president, please invite them to contact the Center to discuss this.



Thanks for your inquiry, and for using OpenSecrets.org.



Massie Ritsch

Communications Director

Center for Responsive Politics
 
Massie Ritsch,

I'd like to point you to an interview Ron Paul gave with Neil Cavuto on Fox News March 11, 2008,

NC: "Sir, are you still running for President?"
RP: "Sure, sure."
NC: "Do you have any intention on dropping out?"
RP: "Not in the conventional sense. I continue to run to get as many votes and as many delegates."

I will not go into the moral implications of removing a candidate from the active list because "his remarks sounded remarkably like those parting words of every other Republican and Democratic candidate who has ended, suspended or otherwise ceased actively campaigning for president in 2008."

However, I urge you to take another look at what you are doing. In this day and age, a simple deletion from a webpage has significant consequences for the country.

Thank you,
Nathan D.
 
Massie Ritsch,

I'd like to point you to an interview Ron Paul gave with Neil Cavuto on Fox News March 11, 2008,

NC: "Sir, are you still running for President?"
RP: "Sure, sure."
NC: "Do you have any intention on dropping out?"
RP: "Not in the conventional sense. I continue to run to get as many votes and as many delegates."

I will not go into the moral implications of removing a candidate from the active list because "his remarks sounded remarkably like those parting words of every other Republican and Democratic candidate who has ended, suspended or otherwise ceased actively campaigning for president in 2008."

However, I urge you to take another look at what you are doing. In this day and age, a simple deletion from a webpage has significant consequences for the country.

Thank you,
Nathan D.

Well done! I'll resend my email regarding to those comments.

He has NOT DROPPED OUT. PERIOD. He is still OFFICIALLY running. McCain could die of a heart attack *don't touch wood*. These people are going to get a big ass shock when we take over the GOP.
 
Well done! I'll resend my email regarding to those comments.

He has NOT DROPPED OUT. PERIOD. He is still OFFICIALLY running. McCain could die of a heart attack *don't touch wood*. These people are going to get a big ass shock when we take over the GOP.

And if he would, then you would see a return of Mitt Romney to the Race. Ron is not going to receive the Nomination. It's time to accept it. It looks like he already has.
 
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