Only A Retard Would Call Peter As A Neocon!

That idea that Iranians don't care if they get destroyed is ridiculous.
 
That idea that Iranians don't care if they get destroyed is ridiculous.

Peter DOES not want to destroy Iran... :rolleyes:

And you´re ridicilous if that´s the only thing you heard from the video or doesn´t this video fit to your agenda ?
 
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Peter DOES not want to destroy Iran... :rolleyes:

You either didn't listen to the interview or didn't read what I wrote that you imagined yourself to be replying to. He said in that interview that you posted that a threat of mutually assured destruction won't work with Iran like it does with Russia because they don't care if they get destroyed, which is ridiculous.
 
You either didn't listen to the interview or didn't read what I wrote that you imagined yourself to be replying to. He said in that interview that you posted that a threat of mutually assured destruction won't work with Iran like it does with Russia because they don't care if they get destroyed, which is ridiculous.

I agree with Peter that you can´t compare Soviet Union and Iran.

But that´s not the point of this whole thing... :rolleyes:


The point is that he´s not a neocon...
 
You either didn't listen to the interview or didn't read what I wrote that you imagined yourself to be replying to. He said in that interview that you posted that a threat of mutually assured destruction won't work with Iran like it does with Russia because they don't care if they get destroyed, which is ridiculous.

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Why would anyone call Schiff a neocon in the first place?

If someone thinks that believing in preemptive war makes you a neocon, they're wrong about what a neocon is. But if that were the definition of one, then this interview wouldn't make Peter look like any less of one than he did when he first make the statements that they talk about here. All he does is just repeat the position he's had all along. He really doesn't make any qualifications of it that should make those people who saw it as a deal breaker feel any better about him.

If anything he dug the hole deeper here by repeating that silly myth that Iranians don't care if they get destroyed.
 
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So no arguments about the Peter Schiff is a neocon ?

Nice! :)

Straw man. It's possible to disagree with Peter Schiff about the Iran threat, not think he's a neocon, and think that he's worth helping. Be glad folks are willing to help Schiff even if they think he's wrong about Iran instead of wanting everyone to agree with his position.
 
Why wouldn't anyone call Schiff a neocon in the first place?

If someone thinks that believing in preemptive war makes you a neocon, they're wrong about what a neocon is. But if that were the definition of one, then this interview wouldn't make Peter look like any less of one than he did when he first make the statements that they talk about here. All he does is just repeat the position he's had all along. He really doesn't make any qualifications of it that should make those people who saw it as a deal breaker feel any better about him.

If anything he dug the hole deeper here by repeating that silly myth that Iranians don't care if they get destroyed.

Peter Schiff helped himself a little by reiterating his early opposition to the Iraq war. That could mean that he's not willing to support launching air strikes against Iran based on the flimsy WMD intel. Then again, maybe he would have been for air strikes against Iraq and just against all out war. I agree with you that it's silly to think the Iranians don't care about being destroyed.
 
Dang, I had to turn that interview off when he started justifying an attack on Iran by arguing that the Russians are more rational than the Iranians, because "terrorists" don't care if they die. I can't believe someone so intelligent can make such an ignorant comment. I love Peter whenever he's on the business channels discussing economics, but as a politician... Very disappointed. :(
 
He may not be a neocon, but he is clearly a brainwashed douchebag.

Edit: UNLESS he is just saying it to win the election. If so --and I hope so--then I approve of his lies.
 
Dang, I had to turn that interview off when he started justifying an attack on Iran by arguing that the Russians are more rational than the Iranians, because "terrorists" don't care if they die. I can't believe someone so intelligent can make such an ignorant comment. I love Peter whenever he's on the business channels discussing economics, but as a politician... Very disappointed. :(

Yeah. That was a pretty lame argument. Peter could have argued that "Our belief that the Soviets were not suicidal is based on hindsight" and that "our intelligence wasn't good enough for us act on the Soviet bomb effort before it was too late" and "In 1949 we lacked the air superiority over the Soviet Union needed to do such a precision strike". While those arguments aren't strong either, at least they have a ring of truth.

That said, once you put a position out in the middle of a campaign, it's hard to backtrack. Peter made the strategic decision that "not scaring off neocons" is more important than not ticking off the RP base. I still think him getting elected would be a good thing.
 
Schiff is more of an asshole than a neocon. An amusing one though...I might have to go watch him make that phone bank call again where he mistakes a woman for a man, mispronounces her name, asks her if she has the internets--then goes on to give her his website address when she says no.
 
Peter made the strategic decision that "not scaring off neocons" is more important than not ticking off the RP base.
If it was just a strategic decision, then he can't very well act surprised that the RP base is unwilling to help him out, he had to have known that being anti-preemptive war was one of the biggest issues with the RP base. It is one of the few things nearly ALL agree upon.

At the same time, I'd have to argue it was a poor decision, the neocon establishment was never going to support him. So he pissed off the RP base in exchange for nothing.

I still think him getting elected would be a good thing.
Sure, would be an improvement.
 
You either didn't listen to the interview or didn't read what I wrote that you imagined yourself to be replying to. He said in that interview that you posted that a threat of mutually assured destruction won't work with Iran like it does with Russia because they don't care if they get destroyed, which is ridiculous.

Yeah, it was pretty lame and collectivist of Peter to imply that if you have Iranian blood you are somehow less sane and more dangerous than the rest of the world. It dehumanizes an entire race.

That excuse, "such and such" dangerous barbarians will kill us first has been used for thousands of years, usually when ther is no moral argument to be made for war.

Still I don't think he is the same as a neocon, who is for starting a war through deception, and for illegal occupation, nation building, etc. More than likely he would vote against taking action on Iran, given his track record on Iraq.
 
Schiff is by no stretch of the imagination a "neocon," but his comments about Iran certainly decrease my opinion of him. He is great on just about every other subject though. I hope by some grand miracle he pulls off this election, but otherwise he should return to doing what he does best - laying the economic smack down on CNBC.
 
I think you guys are being a little ridiculous and hard on Schiff. It would be really pathetic if RP supporters shun schiff because of this.

Maybe it's just me, bit I don't think he said or at least means Iranians don't care about dying - but terrorists. There's a difference ya know.

And as for bombing Iran, he explicitly said it would be a sole precision bombing of a nuclear WMD location (with proof of existence), not supporting invasion, sanctions, etc.

Seriously guys, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the wicked good.

Seriously, now.
 
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