Only 69 out of 228 Ron Paul delegates elected; 76 total

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skiingff

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Ron Paul won 69 committed delegates and has another 7 automatic delegates. An entire 5.26% of the voting delegation in all. Pitiful.

The campaign dropped the ball bigtime on West Virginia, a state they could have won with a coordinated GOTV effort.

Many of our delegates lost by 1 vote. A vast majority lost by 5 votes or less. Half the Ron Paul delegates didn't even seem to vote for themselves, much less the other Ron Paul delegates. What a major miscommunication debacle.

There should have been county coordinators in every county with the knowledge and motivation to win their respective counties. Period. 1 vote.

This campaign is a miserable failure. I am fumed.
 
But If I get what you are saying, Ron Paul won 69 of 76 total delegates?

That's a victory, no?

Do the 69 then go to a state convention?

How many total delegates to the national convention does WV get?
 
skiingff said:
Ron Paul won 69 committed delegates and has another 7 automatic delegates. An entire 5.26% of the voting delegation in all. Pitiful.

The campaign dropped the ball bigtime on West Virginia, a state they could have won with a coordinated GOTV effort.

Many of our delegates lost by 1 vote. A vast majority lost by 5 votes or less. Half the Ron Paul delegates didn't even seem to vote for themselves, much less the other Ron Paul delegates. What a major miscommunication debacle.

There should have been county coordinators in every county with the knowledge and motivation to win their respective counties. Period. 1 vote.

This campaign is a miserable failure. I am fumed.
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Thanks for all you do!! We are working as a grassroots coalition in NV to get stuff done - we'll see how well we do.
 
skiingff said:
Ron Paul won 69 committed delegates and has another 7 automatic delegates. An entire 5.26% of the voting delegation in all. Pitiful.

The campaign dropped the ball bigtime on West Virginia, a state they could have won with a coordinated GOTV effort.

Many of our delegates lost by 1 vote. A vast majority lost by 5 votes or less. Half the Ron Paul delegates didn't even seem to vote for themselves, much less the other Ron Paul delegates. What a major miscommunication debacle.

There should have been county coordinators in every county with the knowledge and motivation to win their respective counties. Period. 1 vote.

This campaign is a miserable failure. I am fumed.
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what could be done to do better skiingff ... ? what can we learn from this to improve in other states ...? thx

kill the banks
 
skiingff said:
Ron Paul won 69 committed delegates and has another 7 automatic delegates. An entire 5.26% of the voting delegation in all. Pitiful.

The campaign dropped the ball bigtime on West Virginia, a state they could have won with a coordinated GOTV effort.

Many of our delegates lost by 1 vote. A vast majority lost by 5 votes or less. Half the Ron Paul delegates didn't even seem to vote for themselves, much less the other Ron Paul delegates. What a major miscommunication debacle.

There should have been county coordinators in every county with the knowledge and motivation to win their respective counties. Period. 1 vote.

This campaign is a miserable failure. I am fumed.
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Can you please explain this a tad more, what EXACTLY happened in W.V., and what does it mean? Thanks.
 
We did what we could with what we had. We had large groups in big counties that didn't get enough votes.

This entire process of voting online here was very involved, we were beaten by crossover vote.

In Kanawha county, even the Romney folks only had a slate of 45, so they had second choices. Same with the uncommitted voters, they got to pick their top 2.

They chose Romney and Huckabee.

Even with that, we worked our asses off getting the word out about voting, and doesn't look like hardly anyone followed through. I handed out hundreds of instructions all over Kanawha county at tables, people who were switching to vote for Paul, but this process is so involved, it's not just going and pulling a lever or clicking a button.
 
The Huckabee people turned out in droves.

I worked our County Convention, and Huckabee people showed up in groups of 10 or 12 to vote.

What irritated me was that their organizer told me he copied my instructions and notices word for word and gave them to his people.
 
We needed a 3rd place or better in the early primaries to be people's second choices, but yes, the Huckabee folk came out of nowhere, but they were already organized, some kind of private church school or something, most all the delegates in some counties are faculty.
 
Jefferson is a bright spot

Not sure why, except that lots of good people took responsibility. We could have done better if I had called and reminded people. A couple of people truely forgot. The margin was very tight but I would call it a victory since we got 12 of 17 slots counting stealth delegates. We did work hard and took reponsibility for getting our people out. We did not expect much help from the campaign and only got some targeted mailings. It really is true that we are the campaign. Every vote was critical. It was frustrating to be waving signs out front and have people honk in suppport and then just drive on by without voting.


Lets learn from this, most of us are new to politics. Lets get involved for the long term. Don't let them change us. We can be a large force in the party. I am afraid we will never have another person of the stature of Ron Paul. What a great man he is. We have to take this party over from the bottom up. We need to become tens of thousands of Ron Pauls. How will they fight that?
 
jiradog said:
Lets learn from this, most of us are new to politics. Lets get involved for the long term. Don't let them change us. We can be a large force in the party. I am afraid we will never have another person of the stature of Ron Paul. What a great man he is. We have to take this party over from the bottom up. We need to become tens of thousands of Ron Pauls. How will they fight that?
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The Party is ripe for the taking, especially if there's an electoral defeat in the general election.
 
kirkblitz said:
so what place does it look like we will come in?
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There's no way to tell until the convention. Between now and Feb 5, we need to sway as many uncommitted delegates as possible.

We also need people from surrounding states to come to Charleston on Feb 5 and campaign outside the convention.
 
JS4Pat said:
Ahhhh not quite.

Not when we send $28 million to the National Campaign and they don't handle their responsibility.
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They have sent us a state coordinator, and they've even rented the top floor of the WV GOP headquarters in the Ronald Reagan building in South Charleston (they've named it the Goldwater-Taft Suite).

The state coordinator has been trying to make use of the Precinct Captain program to organize the counties.

It just all happened way too late. To be fair, though, they had no way of knowing if there'd be money to spend on WV until after December 17th.

That's the problem with "money bombs". They make it nearly impossible to budget, because you never know how much is coming in or when.
 
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