One Trick Pony

[Drknows]

If Ron Paul never brought up Iraq most of us wouldnt even be here. Its his strongest position and the only one most Americans can follow.

How many Americans know about our monetary system? Do they even know what the federal reserve is? Do they know what interest rates are? NOPE.

The Majority of Americans don't care. They probably dont even look at their paychecks to see how much the government is taking.


IRAQ IS HIS STRONGEST POSITION! Foreign policy is his ace in the hole.

 

[Nathan Hale]

I know you want to here a whole bunch of BULLSHIT, but the fact is that our foreign policy is the biggest cause of our problem with the economy and the worst part of our foreign policy is Iraq.

I personally want to hear the truth. But I want the people to vote for Ron Paul MORE.

The stimulus package is going to inject what? 120 billion into the economy? Come home from Iraq and from around the world, and inject a TRILLION a year into our economy.

But that doesn't win voters. There's time enough to talk about how ending the war would help our economy. But when the question is about the economy, it's time to talk domestic issues - Ron rarely speaks domestically, and when you're talking a Republican primary, domestic issues are Ron's strong suit.

I'd say Ron Paul is just trying to beat the TRUTH into some pretty dense heads.

He won't succeed. Better to win the race than tilt at windmills.

 

[ArrestPoliticians]

Conservative republicans dont care about money.

They already know his stance on the war.

HE NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW!!!

 

[Nathan Hale]

If Ron Paul never brought up Iraq most of us wouldnt even be here. Its his strongest position and the only one most Americans can follow.

How many Americans know about our monetary system? Do they even know what the federal reserve is? Do they know what interest rates are? NOPE.

The Majority of Americans don't care. They probably dont even look at their paychecks to see how much the government is taking.


IRAQ IS HIS STRONGEST POSITION! Foreign policy is his ace in the hole.

There are a whole wealth of issues out there. He is already given plenty of time to talk about Iraq. When he's not asked about Iraq, he should talk about other things. Iraq isn't some ace in the hole - the crowd would likely react better to Paul speaking (smartly) about ending the income tax, or the dept of education, or wasteful government spending. But he passes on great opportunities to do this in order to return to his ONE TRICK. One trick ponies don't win the show. And Ron Paul needs to be in this to win it.

 

[JimInNY]

Ron Paul has won elections against all odds before. He knows what he is doing.

 

[msrebel54]

It's nice to see Ron Paul speak the truth and be right. But being right isn't worth a damn thing if Ron Paul is not effective. Better to be effective and forego being right than to insist on being right and compromising your effectiveness.

His mistake is in assuming that the American sh...uh...people are smarter and more informed than they really are. They are used to these glossed over simplistic answers to complex issues, it's more or less like cheering for a sports team to them. They know of no substance whatsoever. Dr. Paul is too smart for his own good.

The other night, he asked McCain a question that McCain himself didn't understand. (the question, much less the answer).

The base Ron Paul supporters have educated themselves, and are caring people as to what happens to their freedom and the country. But how many are going to take the time and effort to become educated about the issues? Less than 10%. But even that's a vast improvement over a year ago, then I would have guessed it to be about 0.5%. So Dr. Paul IS making an impact. Just not big enough, fast enough, nor can he find it in himself to lower his mental ability to where the average person can understand what he said or why he said it. God knows, he tries though. If he were not trying, he might as well be speaking Klingon to most people.

Try this little experiment to prove the point. Ask the first random 10 people (not your friends or inner circle) the following three simple questions, and then get back to me. (jokingly):

1. What form of government did the founding fathers set the United States up to be? (Constitutional Republic) ...or just Republic will suffice as a correct answer.

2. What right does the Second Amendment to the US Constitution speak of? (right to keep and bear arms) "Gun rights" may suffice, but it's not technically correct

3. Name four people currently running for President of the US in 2008?

After you do this....you will see what a sad shape our country is really in. Apparently, teaching civics in school went out a long time ago

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

Whether it is or is not the problem IS IRRELEVANT. The only thing that matters is what the average viewer will digest. And the average viewer will not digest the truth. So Ron Paul needs to speak in terms that the average viewer will digest, or he's just wasting his (and our) time.

He already does. He doesn't talk about M3, he talks about printing money causing inflation. He doesn't talk about blowback, he talks about how the war is bankrupting us and was unjustified. If he dumbs it down any further, he'll be indistinguishable from the pack on most issues and just look like a pacifist on the war.

Paul is the candidate of actual change and well-thought policies, and 30 second sound-bites don't favor that. You can only do so much without undermining what makes your candidacy different and worthwhile.

I'm all for him expressing a few of his usual answers slightly different, mainly by using a few more conservative buzzwords, but he's 100% right to link our economic troubles to the war, overall foreign policy, and monetary policy. Ordinary Americans can and DO make the connection between the war and our difficulties.

 

[Nathan Hale]

Ron Paul has won elections against all odds before. He knows what he is doing.

The only similar thing between this election and the previous election that he won against all odds (1996, and the odds werent this bad) is that they're both elections.

 

[Nathan Hale]

I agree with you totally. We're aware of this. Ron paul is aware of this. So he's faced with a choice: Am I willing to speak in a way that idiots will understand?

His mistake is in assuming that the American sh...uh...people are smarter and more informed than they really are. They are used to these glossed over simplistic answers to complex issues, it's more or less like cheering for a sports team to them. They know of no substance whatsoever. Dr. Paul is too smart for his own good.

The other night, he asked McCain a question that McCain himself didn't understand. (the question, much less the answer).

The base Ron Paul supporters have educated themselves, and are caring people as to what happens to their freedom and the country. But how many are going to take the time and effort to become educated about the issues? Less than 10%. But even that's a vast improvement over a year ago, then I would have guessed it to be about 0.5%. So Dr. Paul IS making an impact. Just not big enough, fast enough, nor can he find it in himself to lower his mental ability to where the average person can understand what he said or why he said it. God knows, he tries though. If he were not trying, he might as well be speaking Klingon to most people.

Try this little experiment to prove the point. Ask the first random 10 people (not your friends or inner circle) the following three simple questions, and then get back to me. (jokingly):

1. What form of government did the founding fathers set the United States up to be? (Constitutional Republic) ...or just Republic will suffice as a correct answer.

2. What right does the Second Amendment to the US Constitution speak of? (right to keep and bear arms) "Gun rights" may suffice, but it's not technically correct

3. Name four people currently running for President of the US in 2008?

After you do this....you will see what a sad shape our country is really in. Apparently, teaching civics in school went out a long time ago

 

[Nathan Hale]

He already does. He doesn't talk about M3, he talks about printing money causing inflation. He doesn't talk about blowback, he talks about how the war is bankrupting us and was unjustified. If he dumbs it down any further, he'll be indistinguishable from the pack on most issues and just look like a pacifist on the war.

He can do a lot better without looking like a pacifist.

Paul is the candidate of actual change and well-thought policies, and 30 second sound-bites don't favor that. You can only do so much without undermining what makes your candidacy different and worthwhile.

True, but Paul is nowhere near that line.

I'm all for him expressing a few of his usual answers slightly different, mainly by using a few more conservative buzzwords, but he's 100% right to link our economic troubles to the war, overall foreign policy, and monetary policy. Ordinary Americans can and DO make the connection between the war and our difficulties.

Apparently not enough to make a difference in the polls.

SORRY FOLKS, I'M GOING TO BED - NOT TRACKING THIS THREAD ANY LONGER. GOOD CONVOS.