One reason to vote for Bernie Sanders....

[jmdrake]

Before someone says "OMFG! Don't you know he's a socialist?" Yes. And I know Donald Trump is a fascist. Not a racist. Mussolini was not a racist from what I can tell. But certainly a fascist in that Trump believes in corporatism the same as Mussolini and Mussolini defined fascism as corporatism. And no I'm not saying "Corporations by their very nature are EEEVVVIIILL." But the government working to tilt the balance in favor of corporations is evil. The most extreme example of that is eminent domain for private business. That is the government telling you that you must sell your family farm to the subdivision developer because, after all, subdivisions generate more property taxes!

Of course Trump isn't the only GOP candidate left running. But I don't like any of them. I did like Ben Carson based on what he said before running for president. Then he let teocon advisers run his reputation and campaign into the ground. Besides, if one of these yahoos happen to win we are stuck with them for the next 8 years. Nobody in the liberty movement will primary challenge a sitting GOP president unless things have gotten Weinmar Republic bad.

So why Bernie over Hillary? Because Hillary is an evil, murdering, tyrant Lady MacBeth who decided she wants to take the next step and become king and her husband Bill is likely a child molester. (Google Bill Clinton and orgy island if you haven't heard.) She's the person running that I least want to be president. As much as I can't stand Jeb Bush, I'm pretty sure his wife isn't a child molester. And Hillary could possibly beat Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. It's a toss up between Hillary and those two. Bernie kicks Trump and Cruz butt massively. So a Bernie win means no Hillary for president and the liberty movement gets another shot at the GOP nomination in 2020. Maybe finally the GOP will get the message that nobody but someone approved by the liberty wing of the GOP can win a general presidential election at this point. Then again, maybe some random stranger will donate me half of his lottery winnings (cause I'm not buying a ticket) and I'll have the money to buy my own private island and blow this joint.

Secondary reason. It would make my political airhead girlfriend happy. She loves Bernie Sanders. After explaining why I loved Rand and pointing to specific legislation Rand had proposed like changing marijuana to schedule two or criminal justice reform, she couldn't think of anything and had to Google it.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Yeah I just like to add one thing;

A socialist president doesn't mean socialist policies will be passed in congress.

 

[Mike4Freedom]

Yeah I just like to add one thing;

A socialist president doesn't mean socialist policies will be passed in congress.

Sanders becoming POTUS would mean more gridlock for 4 years. They will still find a way to pass legislation that takes away our freedom though, just not as much.
I would not vote for sanders though. I would abstain. I believe that if anyone supports the remaining candidates they will have blood on their hands.

Voting for the lesser of the bloodthirsty psychopaths is still voting for a bloodthirsty psychopath.

Remember, bernie supports saudi arabia, and a hardcore supports of israels policies as well.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Sanders becoming POTUS would mean more gridlock for 4 years. They will still find a way to pass legislation that takes away our freedom though, just not as much.
I would not vote for sanders though. I would abstain. I believe that if anyone supports the remaining candidates they will have blood on their hands.

Voting for the lesser of the bloodthirsty psychopaths is still voting for a bloodthirsty psychopath.

Remember, bernie supports saudi arabia, and a hardcore supports of israels policies as well.

It's a tactical vote more than anything.

1)It's a hell of a lot easier to get a Dem out of office in 2020. That's the 3rd time in a row there has been a Dem president, 4 years with a socialist at the wheel is probably a good thing to rally the base.
2)Hillary Clinton is certainly worse as she will actually get a lot of crony stuff done which nobody here wants.
3)Getting anyone onto the Republican ticket with 'conservative' as a label, will reduce future chances for a real conservative/liberty candidate.
4)If a fake liberty candidate or fake conservative manages to win the White House... Well that's an even bigger setback and it will take further decades before liberty is appealing to the general public.

 

[69360]

If Sanders and Trump win the primary I would vote for Sanders. Sanders is a socialist, but Trump is a maniac. I'd rather be robbed than killed.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

It's a tactical vote more than anything.

1)It's a hell of a lot easier to get a Dem out of office in 2020. That's the 3rd time in a row there has been a Dem president, 4 years with a socialist at the wheel is probably a good thing to rally the base.
2)Hillary Clinton is certainly worse as she will actually get a lot of crony stuff done which nobody here wants.
3)Getting anyone onto the Republican ticket with 'conservative' as a label, will reduce future chances for a real conservative/liberty candidate.
4)If a fake liberty candidate or fake conservative manages to win the White House... Well that's an even bigger setback and it will take further decades before liberty is appealing to the general public.

yep. ive been saying this for years. imagine the horror for real liberty if "tea party conservative" paul ryan was vp to president mitt.


BTW now people know paul ryan is a phony since he passed that omnibus bill

 

[TheNewYorker]

I will be voting Bernie for all the free stuff.

Sandercare, Berniephones, etc.

Only real downside to a Bernie presidency is less deodorant choices, really

 

[FrancisMarion]

Yeah I just like to add one thing;

A socialist president doesn't mean socialist policies will be passed in congress.

Whats Sander's position on Executive Orders?

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/roosevelt.html

 

[Mike4Freedom]

It's a tactical vote more than anything.

1)It's a hell of a lot easier to get a Dem out of office in 2020. That's the 3rd time in a row there has been a Dem president, 4 years with a socialist at the wheel is probably a good thing to rally the base.
2)Hillary Clinton is certainly worse as she will actually get a lot of crony stuff done which nobody here wants.
3)Getting anyone onto the Republican ticket with 'conservative' as a label, will reduce future chances for a real conservative/liberty candidate.
4)If a fake liberty candidate or fake conservative manages to win the White House... Well that's an even bigger setback and it will take further decades before liberty is appealing to the general public.

I am 100% with you on point #4. That would be the worst case. Trump or cruz winning it. If its trump they will blame "outsider and independents" for the problems. If it is cruz they will blame fiscal conservatism and libertarians for the problems.

On the flip side, If bernie wins and a terrorist attack happens they will say it is because he is an "isolationist"

Heads they win, Tails we lose,

Still a better scenario then Trump or Cruz winning because that gives a liberty candidate almost 0% chance of winning next time around.

 

[puppetmaster]

Yeah I just like to add one thing;

A socialist president doesn't mean socialist policies will be passed in congress.

so Congress will roll over for Trump but not bernie?

 

[LibertyEagle]

One thing about Bernie is that he probably would veto the TPP/TPA. Need to check how he voted on that though. But, most Dems were against it.

 

[angelatc]

Before someone says "OMFG! Don't you know he's a socialist?" Yes. And I know Donald Trump is a fascist..

Yep, and I have always said that I preferred fascism to socialism.

 

[angelatc]

One thing about Bernie is that he we probably would veto the TPP/TPA. Need to check how he voted on that though. But, most Dems were against it.

Sanders isn't dependable. He showed his true colors when he sold us out with the "End The Fed" bill.

Sanders is a progressive. I will literally put a bullet in my head before I vote for that.

 

[EBounding]

I wouldn't mind Berndog as president with a Republican congress. I might vote for him in the primary to create mischief.

 

[angelatc]

If Sanders and Trump win the primary I would vote for Sanders. Sanders is a socialist, but Trump is a maniac. I'd rather be robbed than killed.

Uh, major history fail.

 

[angelatc]

I wouldn't mind Berndog as president with a Republican congress. I might vote for him in the primary to create mischief.

I might vote for him in the primary for the same reason. But only as a way to stop Hillary.

 

[SilentBull]

I disagree. I would take Hillary over Sanders. Sanders actually believes his crap and it would send a message to the country that socialism is now accepted. And for those who think Sanders wouldn't be able to get anything done, have you not seen how this works? All republicans need in order to cave is to be painted as the mean people who are against equality. He would get more stuff done than you think, with the socialist media's help.

 

[otherone]

Re: Sanders.

LOL
Everyone has a "tax plan". They are all bullshit, of course, EXCEPT Sanders. I guarantee that if Sanders is elected, your taxes WILL go up. It will be his legacy, and all of his useful idiots who bleated "income equality" will still cheer "huzzah" on the way to bankruptcy.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Sanders isn't dependable. He showed his true colors when he sold us out with the "End The Fed" bill.

Sanders is a progressive. I will literally put a bullet in my head before I vote for that.

Oh, I'm not voting for him. lol. I'm probably voting for Trump, because if we don't stop the TPP/TPA and either get out of, or totally change the other "free trade" agreements, we are toast. I wouldn't be too sad to curtail the illegal alien invasion of our country, either.

 

[LittleLightShining]

You guys are too hung up on the word "socialist". People making more than $250,000 year will see their taxes go up if congress supports him. Congress raise taxes on themselves and their buddies?