One Million for Peter Schiff- July 29th

with someone who is an ass to supporters?

You're being a tad hypocritical now. Am I not a supporter? Are you not being hostile to me?

also, i'm not picking any fights. just pointing out that being an ass to supporters who spend dozens of hours to help Schiff isn't helpful.

I don't dismiss concerns.

I said I was withholding a pledge until the $500k or return component was clarified by Peter and/or the campaign, voicing a legitimate concern. What does withholding my pledge have to do with you or Trevor Lyman? Nothing. You purposely picked a fight with me. Do you think that's helpful?
 
I said I was withholding a pledge until the $500k or return component was clarified by Peter and/or the campaign, voicing a legitimate concern. What does withholding my pledge have to do with you or Trevor Lyman? Nothing. You purposely picked a fight with me. Do you think that's helpful?

I didn't mean to pick a fight. I just wanted to point out that being an ass to people who help Schiff isn't positive. By being an ass, I mean this:

Frankly I don't give a damn about Trevor Lyman.

You should say nice things about people who are helping Schiff. If you can't do that, at least stop being an ass.
 
I didn't mean to pick a fight. I just wanted to point out that being an ass to people who help Schiff isn't positive. By being an ass, I mean this:

You should say nice things about people who are helping Schiff. If you can't do that, at least stop being an ass.

I said that I was withholding my pledge and was concerned about whether the $500k or return component was true. You inferred that I believe Trevor Lyman lacked credibility and snidely dismissed my concern for proof regarding the $500k or return provision:

I would've guessed that the Trevor Lyman brand had widespread credibility on RPF by this point. Anyway, I'm sure the "proof" you're looking will come in the next few days.

Trevor Lyman has nothing to do with me withholding my pledge. Therefore, I stand by my statement that don't give a damn about Trevor Lyman here, you brought him up. I do give a damn about the legitimate concern of a key feature of the moneybomb being verified by Peter and/or the campaign, seeing how they would be handling the potential returns.

Perhaps I should state that I really look forward to helping Trevor in his efforts once this is verified. He has done great work in the past.

Continue to paint me as someone who is an "ass to supporters" and is helping Linda McMahon. It's working so well for you, the ad hominem attacks on fellow supporters that is.
 
I'm not questioning any of those statements you just posted. I only said that making the statement below is equivalent to being an ass to someone working dozens of hours to help Schiff.

Frankly I don't give a damn about Trevor Lyman.

This is independent of any other statement you made.

Also, I didn't bring Trevor Lyman up. You did by calling his efforts "sketchy" and that you just don't give a damn about him. Even if it's true, it's a pretty rude statement to make towards' a supporter. I don't think I will hear Peter Schiff saying he "doesn't give a damn" about the caller that made 1000 calls in a week for him.
 
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I'm not questioning any of those statements you just posted. I only said that making the statement bellow is equivalent to being an ass to someone working dozens of hours to help Schiff.

This is independent of any other statement you made.

You brought him up when dismissing my concern for proof was regarding the $500k or return component. He has nothing to do with that concern. Therefore, I was saying I don't give a damn about him, I give a damn about the concern. It's not independent. If you want to quote me, quote the entire part:

Frankly I don't give a damn about Trevor Lyman. I care about Peter and whether or not the $500k condition is real, which can't currently be verified. It's a legitimate concern, I don't want a bait and switch.
 
You brought him up when dismissing my concern for proof was regarding the $500k or return component. He has nothing to do with that concern. Therefore, I was saying I don't give a damn about him, I give a damn about the concern. It's not independent. If you want to quote me, quote the entire part:

I still think it was uncalled for and rude. I don't think I will hear Peter Schiff saying he "doesn't give a damn" about the caller that made 1000 calls in a week for him.
 
Also, I didn't bring Trevor Lyman up. You did by calling his efforts "sketchy" and that you just don't give a damn about him. Even if it's true, it's a pretty rude statement to make towards' a supporter. I don't think I will hear Peter Schiff saying he "doesn't give a damn" about the caller that made 1000 calls in a week for him.

I said it sounds sketchy because it lacks proof that Peter and/or the campaign has approved it. It has nothing to do with Trevor Lyman. Bringing his name up over and over doesn't placate my concern.
 
I still think it was uncalled for and rude. I don't think I will hear Peter Schiff saying he "doesn't give a damn" about the caller that made 1000 calls in a week for him.

I never said I didn't appreciate what he had done or that I don't want to work with him. I said I don't give a damn about him in the context of seeking proof for the $500k or return component of the moneybomb. That needs to come from the campaign.

If anyone was offended by my comment, then I apologize and hope they can appreciate the context in which it was said regarding my concerns when they were challenged. I would never mean to discourage fellow supporters.

I'm clearly not the only one in this thread who has expressed concerns and you seem to quickly jump on people voicing them rather than just letting Peter and/or the campaign address them. Arguing with me doesn't help.
 
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I'm clearly not the only one in this thread who has expressed concerns and you seem to quickly jump on people voicing them rather than just letting Peter and/or the campaign address them. Arguing with me doesn't help.

I also expressed concerns, and I wasn't "jumping at you". I just stated a belief, which wasn't meant as a criticism to you.
 
Ok then let's just put this behind us and focus on the moneybomb. I hope it is successful and Peter mentions it in his next blog.
 
Finally, we have confirmation from the Schiff himself. Sorry to be weary, but I just don't trust random web sites that ask for an email address.

I've got $200 ready to go for Thursday.
 
im in for $25, it is all I can spare right now, brings my total donated to Schiff to $100
 
I just went ahead and donated today, I don't want my money back.

As a college kid in Ohio, I am struggling check to check- but I hope and pray that if I can give the financial state I am in, that others with a real income can really give an amount to make this successful.
 
I just went ahead and donated today, I don't want my money back.

As a college kid in Ohio, I am struggling check to check- but I hope and pray that if I can give the financial state I am in, that others with a real income can really give an amount to make this successful.

I'm in the same boat. I will try making my donation tomorrow. I really want him to get over the $500K mark.
 
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