One, Big Beautiful Bill (The Mega-Bill)

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump is no fiscal conservative. Let me be the first to predict: there will eventually be conflict between DOGE and Trump, and the time will come when Trump will side with the swamp, and attack Musk and Vivek, just like he has attacked Massie and Roy.

Vivek out, Musk out, DOGE ignored by Trump in his "Big, Beautiful Bill".

Prediction confirmed.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Vivek out, Musk out, DOGE ignored by Trump in his "Big, Beautiful Bill".

Prediction confirmed.

USAID was NOT "nonsense".
The RINOs in Congress are being RINOs, that restricts Trump, but he is going to pursue impoundment.
Musk left at the end of the period he could stay as a Special Government Employee, he's still working with DOGE and things are far from over.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

USAID was NOT "nonsense".
The RINOs in Congress are being RINOs, that restricts Trump, but he is going to pursue impoundment.
Musk left at the end of the period he could stay as a Special Government Employee, he's still working with DOGE and things are far from over.

Yes, USAID is big and is one of many things that need to be cut completely.

But after DOGE thoroughly exposed USAID, it seemed like the reins got pulled hard on DOGE. Now DOGE is being swept under the table.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Madison320]

I'm expecting the spending to increase over the next few months. Sometime around August the debt ceiling is going to be lifted and the debt will probably climb by close to a trillion by maybe October. I'm guessing things could start to get interesting.

 

[nikcers]

I'm expecting the spending to increase over the next few months. Sometime around August the debt ceiling is going to be lifted and the debt will probably climb by close to a trillion by maybe October. I'm guessing things could start to get interesting.

Most of the spending is from the intra governmental debt that was borrowed from social security to pay for the Iraq War and the GWOT.

Whether it was wise or not thats not what I am saying. George W Bush at the time said the USA would benefit from doing it especially after 50 years.

It has been about 25 and atleast Trump has been able to secure trillions of dollars in trade deals.

The project for a new American century was highly published at the time.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Madison320]

Most of the spending is from the intra governmental debt that was borrowed from social security to pay for the Iraq War and the GWOT.

Whether it was wise or not thats not what I am saying. George W Bush at the time said the USA would benefit from doing it especially after 50 years.

It has been about 25 and atleast Trump has been able to secure trillions of dollars in trade deals.

The project for a new American century was highly published at the time.

Most of the spending is from debt? What does that even mean? I think you're cutting and pasting shit without a clue.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[nikcers]

Most of the spending is from debt? What does that even mean? I think you're cutting and pasting shit without a clue.

Most of the spending that we are spending right now is spending that we spent already 20 years ago.

We spent that money 20 years ago and there is no time machine to go back and unspend it.

We borrowed money from Social security and Medicare trust funds and federal employee retirement to pay for it.

We didnt increase taxes like every other country would have to do to go to war.

We put those wars on credit card and then when that credit card was full we put that credit card on another credit card and another credit card.

 

[Madison320]

Most of the spending that we are spending right now is spending that we spent already 20 years ago.

We spent that money 20 years ago and there is no time machine to go back and unspend it.

We borrowed money from Social security and Medicare trust funds and federal employee retirement to pay for it.

We didnt increase taxes like every other country would have to do to go to war.

We put those wars on credit card and then when that credit card was full we put that credit card on another credit card and another credit card.

Wrong. The money we spent 20 years ago contributed to the debt. We pay interest on that debt. Out of the 7.5 trillion or so we spent last year about 1 trillion was to pay interest on that debt. The other 6.5 trillion was from current spending.

 

[nikcers]

Wrong. The money we spent 20 years ago contributed to the debt. We pay interest on that debt. Out of the 7.5 trillion or so we spent last year about 1 trillion was to pay interest on that debt. The other 6.5 trillion was from current spending.

20 years ago we collapsed the housing market.

Americans now have 12.7421 trillion US$ in Mortgage debts people pay on every year.

We bailed out the banks and forced housing prices to go up even further and have housing shortages

We have Student loan debt in the United States totals $1.777 trillion.

If we start gutting government spending now we will collapse this entire thing like a house of cards.

You will be pulling the supporting pillars of our entire economy like a giant game of Jenga.

This is because we put the Iraq War and GWOT on credit card and the credit card is paid for with the economic system and our economic system only works because our non discretionary spending which is 75% of government spending and our debt is propped up by credit cards paying for other credit cards.

 

[Snowball]

Bill will fail in Senate.

Some in the GOP know suicide when they see it, and they are old enough not to care about party unity b.s.

 

[oyarde]

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reason enough in itself to vote no, but it advanced past house this morning by one vote and without three GOP votes and senate is planning changes

 

[oyarde]

I will be surprised if senate version doesnt include all one trillion biden planned enviro waste dollars and gut house 20 hr week work requirement to qualify medicaid

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[nikcers]

Rand Paul says he will vote for the Big Beautiful Bill