One, Big Beautiful Bill (The Mega-Bill)

[oyarde]

Okay, now I'm really confused ...

"99 setbacks for every 100 victories" is a victory-to-attempts ratio of 100:199 (> 50%).

But "out of 100 attempts, one would actually succeed" is a victory-to-attempts ratio of 1:100 (= 1%).

Did you mean "attempts" instead of "victories" in the first quote?

I assumed AF meant 1 percent

 

[nikcers]

Is this the same bot who avowed that it learned something about currency devaluation from Ron Paul?

Yes. If you don't want groceries to go up, you do as Rand Paul and Thomas Massie do. If you want to make sure even the middle class needs EBT, you do the stupid things you're always advocating.

Higher paying jobs don't mean a thing when grocery prices go up every damned day and wages don't. Right, bot? Balance the damned budget.

Well the Republicans dont have the votes to balance the budget.

So you either bank your wins you have made politically and try to win more seats in the mid terms or you throw away everything and give the power to Bernie and AOC.

Do you think Bernie and AOC are going to balance the budget?

The smart option is to try to make the president's agenda work for the economy and then you can get some more votes in the mid terms by riding the political momentum of the MAGA movement.

 

[TheTexan]

Minuscule gains, but gains nonetheless.

I'll be fucking ecstatic if this beautiful bill takes suppressors off the NFA.

That's gotta be the smallest victory known to man but goddamn it would make me happy.

 

[Invisible Man]

DOGE wasn't the deal that got the president elected.

The president got elected on the MAGA platform.

You can't sacrifice the MAGA for DOGE.

Otherwise you get no tax cuts and border security and cheap groceries and higher paying jobs.

So if the president doesn't help get people elected that can help him stay in power then Bernie and AOC get to make the budget and fund the government.

DOGE was part of the MAGA platform. It was part of what won him the election. He knew that or he wouldn't have campaigned on it. And the fact that he is now actively opposing the spending cuts that he previously touted as great proves that it was all a show that he only ever supported because it was popular in order to get elected and never really planned to keep those promises.

And you know how you could still get tax cuts without the BBB? By passing tax cuts in a clean tax cut bill, just like they did in 2017, and they didn't need 60 Senate votes to do it.

The reason they don't do that is because then they wouldn't be able to use tax cuts as the bait to get Republicans to support the BBB.

 

[Invisible Man]

I'll be fucking ecstatic if this beautiful bill takes suppressors off the NFA.

That's gotta be the smallest victory known to man but goddamn it would make me happy.

I will also make a point to benefit from that detail.

 

[nikcers]

DOGE was part of the MAGA platform. It was part of what won him the election. He knew that or he wouldn't have campaigned on it. And the fact that he is now actively opposing the spending cuts that he previously touted as great proves that it was all a show that he only ever supported because it was popular in order to get elected and never really planned to keep those promises.

And you know how you could still get tax cuts without the BBB? By passing tax cuts in a clean tax cut bill, just like they did in 2017, and they didn't need 60 Senate votes to do it.

The reason they don't do that is because then they wouldn't be able to use tax cuts as the bait to get Republicans to support the BBB.

That wouldn't fund national security.

If we don't fund national security we are more likely to go to war.

The rest of the world is modernizing their military as we speak and spending more.

The bbb includes national security and it prioritizes defense.

The democrats will fund national security if the Republicans wont govern.

The Democrat foreign policy is more offensive than MAGA.

They would put boots on the ground because offense is the best defense.

Trump is funding defense so we dont have to go to war.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Okay, now I'm really confused ...

"99 setbacks for every 100 victories" is a victory-to-attempts ratio of 100:199 (> 50%).

But "out of 100 attempts, one would actually succeed" is a victory-to-attempts ratio of 1:100 (= 1%).

Did you mean "attempts" instead of "victories" in the first quote?

Oh God, no...

Now you've got ME confused.

I was half asleep when I posted both of them.

All I wanted to convey was an even smaller success ratio than the old saw about 3 steps forward and 2 steps back.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Oh God, no...

Now you've got ME confused.

I was half asleep when I posted both of them.

All I wanted to convey was an even smaller success ratio than the old saw about 3 steps forward and 2 steps back.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Speaking of what day, am I remembering this wrong, or wasn't this very day the day that we were promised to legislate the DOGE cuts?

Was it not just 2 months ago that Massie was excoriated by Trump and his allies for voting against a continuing resolution, and the main argument they used for not including cuts in it was because they needed 60 Senate votes for it to pass, so they had to wait until a budget reconciliation bill that they could pass with only 50 Senate votes to put spending cuts in?

And here we are, with a reconciliation bill that only needs 50 Senate votes, and it increases spending and doesn't include the DOGE cuts, and the very same people who said to wait for a reconciliation bill to legislate cuts are the ones saying that we now have to support a reconciliation bill that increases spending.

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Mar 11, 2025

Amazing explanation and details from Thomas Massie!

• Brian4Liberty

Regarding which:

@ 5:35 in the video (paraphrased): "The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday – but never jam to-day." [1]

 

[acptulsa]

Well the Republicans dont have the votes to balance the budget.

And you're a Cliché-O-Matic who can't care about the destruction of the middle class and wouldn't if you could because bots don't eat.

 

[unknown]

Until this bill.

 

[unknown]

MTG didn't read the fucking thing either?

That's disappointing.

 

[pmbug]

 

[CaptUSA]

Until this bill.

 

[oyarde]

Oh God, no...

Now you've got ME confused.

I was half asleep when I posted both of them.

All I wanted to convey was an even smaller success ratio than the old saw about 3 steps forward and 2 steps back.

Here is the deal , GOP cant get 25 votes in Senate to vote in 160 billion in Doge cuts even after already spending 160 billion more in first quarter that previous dem admin. Looks like though they will vote on a bill adding 2.4 trillion to debt over 9 years ( according to CBO). Pretty well sums up where future is headed .

 

[oyarde]

according to national debt clock today US dollar has lost 96.28 percent of purchasing power since 1913.I doubt it is even that rosy. In 24 years median new home prices increased avg of 6.67 percent per yr , in 25 years median income only increased from 122 dollars per work day to 168 yet median new home price went 164k to 412k , while avg money supply increase was about 8 percent per yr and govt spent most of two decades reporting inflation around 2 or three percent.

 

[acptulsa]

according to national debt clock today US dollar has lost 96.28 percent of purchasing power since 1913

3 1/2 1913 pennies?

I agree with you. They're downplaying it.

 

[acptulsa]

If he vetoed the spending bill bot fearmongering bot fearmongering bot fearmongering.

If you're trying to make excuses for the president threatening the only two or three members of Congress who are trying to do the will of the people with primary fights, you're failing miserably.

 

[nikcers]

If you're trying to make excuses for the president threatening the only two or three members of Congress who are trying to do the will of the people with primary fights, you're failing miserably.

I am only saying the president has to do their job and represent all 50 states.

What do you think he should do surrender the entire government and our national security and our nations future so that one representative can get reelected for the rest of their life?

Let me guess these representatives are the only ones that are for term limits too but you know- not for them right?

 

[acptulsa]

...our national security and our nations future...

Has nothing to do with your intent, and the determination by corrupt and compromised politicians, to kiss zionist ass.