On the ground in Vermont
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alucard13mmfmj
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I think after Maine and Washington XD.. let's not jump the gun and let's remain ever vigilant.
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Big picture is where it is at. My local group in Iowa had a recent meeting. We discussed just that. Now that we know we have numbers and strength how do we use that in the big picture. We are looking to find one, ONE issue that is 100% winnable and fight the machine and break it's back. Time and patience and we will be there.
Sorry, no elaboration at this point.
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therefore the SURPRISE aspect
You mean before you posted it in Grassroots Central, that is.
I kinda wonder why you would do that.
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FYI I have no inside information of any kind, I have not see or heard any inside polling, I am just saying what I am feeling on the ground. And if I am feeling it on the ground the other campaigns already know.
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not if they are focusing more elsewhere.
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The campaign did a TV ad. The grassroots did radio ads, sign waves and door to door. The grassroots is also doing poll standing, I know because I was contact for it and will be doing it. However, unless the grassroots does something awesome in Chittenden County, the only urban area in VT, don't look for a close finish.
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They are not going to switch any strategy based on a random person on a forum gut feelings. I'm not that popular.
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hope it's true, but we all heard something like this before.
an actual win would be a nice change.
an actual win would be a nice change.
What exactly are the voting rules in Vermont? Same Day Registration? Anyone can vote - Republicans, Democrats, Independents?
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Anyone can vote. You must ASK for a republican ballot. It is my understanding that this is different from the past where you would get all the candidates.
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were scrwed LOL
temper expectations in vt
I was out doing door to door yesterday. Being a Saturday a lot of people are out, but of the few I did meet in person (as opposed to just dropping literature) the best candidate for RP vote was a registered Dem who was going to vote in local elections.
I'm not sure why there is an expaction that VT should be a big RP state. I'm a semi-permament resident for over 10 years here and its a pretty odd ball state. Prior to Clinton I do not think it ever voted Dem. Then there was a large influx of retirees and vacationers from MA, CT, NY and even NJ. That was the shift to 'progressive' and 'liberal'. Of those that lean "R" Romney is their type of candidate. But there are some very heavily conservative pockets, especially in the North East Kingdom. Unfort. I think Santorum plays better to many of them. VT has a lot of guys in the Guard too.
Finally, you have to consider that a large portion, if not the majority, of the state is on welfare. So RP's message of reducing govt, liberty, independence etc does not play too well to those who rely heavily on the govt.
I'm told we need at least 20% to get a single delegate and that if one candidate gets 50%, they get all. I think the latter is unlikely and I do think RP can get over 20% (the only poll had him around 15%) but I'm not sure about a shocker. I think right now the more realistic expectation is fighting Santorum for the #2 spot and it would be a great achievement of the people on the ground here.
FYI, RP has a TV ad running and there are some radio ads too. The one radio spot I heard today ran on the area country station and I'll be honest, I think it was more likely to hurt then help as it kept focusing on Ron is for peace, not war, change foreign policy, military donations. If the target is Republicans who listen to country, not sure that is the angle to take. If it is hoping to get Dem cross over voting (open primary) is the country station the best audience? Not sure on that one. Romney ran a TV spot this afternoon during the hockey game.
The only signage I have seen in my area of the state has been RP. A neighbor who travels extensively on the western half of the state has made the same comment. But enthusiasm of grassroots does not always translate into big turnout. I think that is one thing that might play well to RP is I get the impression from speaking to locals, etc that there may not be a huge turnout to vote Tues.
Also want to say the local group in the Stowe area has done a really nice brochure. A few VT local points but I think it hits all the imporant themes without shouting at the voter. Its an easy read and flows well. If you are looking to do one for your still to vote state I would contact them on facebook and see if you can get a copy of the original source.
I was out doing door to door yesterday. Being a Saturday a lot of people are out, but of the few I did meet in person (as opposed to just dropping literature) the best candidate for RP vote was a registered Dem who was going to vote in local elections.
I'm not sure why there is an expaction that VT should be a big RP state. I'm a semi-permament resident for over 10 years here and its a pretty odd ball state. Prior to Clinton I do not think it ever voted Dem. Then there was a large influx of retirees and vacationers from MA, CT, NY and even NJ. That was the shift to 'progressive' and 'liberal'. Of those that lean "R" Romney is their type of candidate. But there are some very heavily conservative pockets, especially in the North East Kingdom. Unfort. I think Santorum plays better to many of them. VT has a lot of guys in the Guard too.
Finally, you have to consider that a large portion, if not the majority, of the state is on welfare. So RP's message of reducing govt, liberty, independence etc does not play too well to those who rely heavily on the govt.
I'm told we need at least 20% to get a single delegate and that if one candidate gets 50%, they get all. I think the latter is unlikely and I do think RP can get over 20% (the only poll had him around 15%) but I'm not sure about a shocker. I think right now the more realistic expectation is fighting Santorum for the #2 spot and it would be a great achievement of the people on the ground here.
FYI, RP has a TV ad running and there are some radio ads too. The one radio spot I heard today ran on the area country station and I'll be honest, I think it was more likely to hurt then help as it kept focusing on Ron is for peace, not war, change foreign policy, military donations. If the target is Republicans who listen to country, not sure that is the angle to take. If it is hoping to get Dem cross over voting (open primary) is the country station the best audience? Not sure on that one. Romney ran a TV spot this afternoon during the hockey game.
The only signage I have seen in my area of the state has been RP. A neighbor who travels extensively on the western half of the state has made the same comment. But enthusiasm of grassroots does not always translate into big turnout. I think that is one thing that might play well to RP is I get the impression from speaking to locals, etc that there may not be a huge turnout to vote Tues.
Also want to say the local group in the Stowe area has done a really nice brochure. A few VT local points but I think it hits all the imporant themes without shouting at the voter. Its an easy read and flows well. If you are looking to do one for your still to vote state I would contact them on facebook and see if you can get a copy of the original source.
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So close to winning so many states.
3rd in Iowa
2nd in NH, Minnesota, Maine, Washington
We've done so well but it irritates me we just can't seem to pull off a win.
3rd in Iowa
2nd in NH, Minnesota, Maine, Washington
We've done so well but it irritates me we just can't seem to pull off a win.
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I hope it is true. Below is a print out people could use in Vermont:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81315475/National-Comparison-Sheet
I love this print out but wish it had a section on electability and how Paul does better than the rest.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81315475/National-Comparison-Sheet
I love this print out but wish it had a section on electability and how Paul does better than the rest.
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