On Capitalist Jesus. The Evil of Christianity.

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On a Justification for Armed revolution. On a Theology of Liberation. On the Revolutionary Jesus. An Anarchist perspective taken from the david icke forum

A Christian is allegedly a 'Christ-like' person who looks to the Jesus of history as a mentor and who claims to believe in his teachings as ‘the word of God.’

‘And every one that hears these sayings of mine, and does them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand’ (Mt. 7)


Consider that the historical Jesus appears to have been a person who fits the following description.

Tenets of the Historical Jesus.

1: Anti-Monetarism / Anti-Capitalism

He did not believe in any form of monetarism (do not carry money.... do not receive money, only food); he was a homeless (he had nowhere to lay his head), unemployed ( he called upon those with him to give up their professions), anti-propertyist who propagated not monetarism but proto-Communism (Fr. Communare: to share. Communism: to share all property in common)

‘Carry neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, neither two robes, neither shoes, nor yet a staff. Mt 10’

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.- Matthew 19:24


And the question needs to raised as to how a person who carries no money could pay taxes; one of the alleged reasons for his arrest.


Then the whole assembly rose and led him off to Pilate. And they began to accuse him, saying, “We have found this man subverting our nation. He opposes payment of taxes to Caesar and claims to be a king.” (Luke 23:1-4)

Do not worship mammon (Aramaic: Material possessions / clothing / money). Consider Solomon in all his glory?

Lay not up for yourself treasures upon the earth...
- Matthew 6:19

2: No Swearing of Oaths.

..and of course without the swearing of oaths and contracts, Capitalism would cease to exist, and ‘I pledge allegiance to the flag…’ would be a violation of the words and edicts of Jesus, as would American Presidents swearing on stacks of Bibles, and Christians swearing oaths in courts or military oaths to fight the enemies of Capitalism.

But I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven... nor by
earth.- Matthew 5:34-35

3: He cried out against the rich and the religious hypocrites.

Woe to you brood of vipers… hypocrites…serpents.. in the name of the prophets you would have stoned the prophets, etc., etc.
Today it is the Christian state terrorists who have a long history of torturing and murdering Communists, particularly in the post war history of Latin America with their Palace revolutions and miltary coups.

4: He did not sell salvation for Capitalist coin.

He did not ask for tithes or offerings; he fed the poor and freely cared for the sick.

5: He told the rich to devote their wealth to the poor.

Sell all that you have and give to the poor... Luke 12:33

6:
No Priesthood.

He was clearly ‘against' the priesthood of his age, and indeed against any form of priesthood.

‘Be not called Rabbi (teacher)… and call no man your father upon the earth…neither be called masters……and whoever exalts himself shall be abased. (Mt.38)’

7:
Anti-Capitalist Martyrdom and Rebellion

This is the true meaning of 'take up your cross;' this was a common punishment for anti-Roman terrorists.

He was tortured and executed for his rebellion against the religious establishment, at their request, and allegedly as a political criminal; he did not support the corrupt government and the Solomonic priesthood (the Sadducees).

8: Non-Idolatry

He was not an idolater, he never referred to himself as the Creator; he may have invoked the Messianic prophecies but he clearly was not so arrogant as to consider himself to be the Creator; indeed he cried out to the Creator at times and referred constantly to the Creator in the Third person. Christians today worship him as an object of idolatry and propagate the Captialist anti-thesis of his teachings.

9: No Public Praying. No Praying in Temples.

He told his followers, 'Do not pray in public in the streets and the Temples.'

And when you pray, you must not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the temples and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when thou pray, enter into your room, and when you have shut the door, pray in secret; and your God which hears in secret shall answer you. And when you pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. (Mt. 6)

In other words, a true Christ-like person would never pray in public or in a church, nor would they construct any form of Temple.

10:
The revolutionary militant (terrorist) Jesus: Armed Revolution.

"Do not suppose that I come to bring peace to the earth: I
did not come to bring peace but a sword..........I have come to cast fire onto the earth; would that it be already kindled"

Consider that at one point he asks his followers to sell their robes if they have to and buy swords. There are two interpretations of the answer, one being 'we have two swords,' and another being 'we have two swords each.' The Judean siccari (Swordsmen or 'terrorists’ to the Romans) commonly carried two swords, as opposed to the sword and shield of the Romans.

'Cohort' (L. a tenth of a Legion).

It clearly states that a cohort (L. a 10th of a legion) of Romans arrested Jesus. A legion was a minimum of 5000 men plus cavalry. Thus a minimum of 500 armed soldiers (plus the Temple guard, who were also armed) arrested Jesus in Gethsemane where an armed fight broke out; outnumbered his followers fled. This begs the question of why 500 armed soldiers would attempt to arrest a group of unarmed pacifists. It simply does not make sense.

Now compare this man to modern day Christians in general. Are they really Christ-like? Do they really believe in all of the above?

Indeed today it is only the Communists who represent his legacy; the Christian Capitalists represent all that he despised.

Two types of Christians; the hypnotists of the 'Jesus Business' and the hypnotised innocents.

I do not believe that the hypnotists of the Jesus business who claim to be 'experts' on the sayings of Jesus can possibly justify their business by the teachings of Jesus. I consider them to be universally corrupt and pied pipers; those who have vested interests in 'Capital' and earn a living from the Jesus business cannot be expected to agree with the tenets above. If they are offended; so too it must be stated that they ‘give offence’ to the students of the historical Jesus and to all liberation theologians and Christian Anarchists.

Consider also that the two major state terrorist countries in the world have Christian heads of state (Obama and Elizabeth Windsor) and that they are totally committed to militant world Capitalist revolution, the holocaust of all militant enemies and the economic enslavement of humanity.

The hypnotised innocents; the proletariat.

Clearly many Christians are simply hypnotised, and it is they who need to be woken up; that simply requires education.
 
If someone didn't know better, they would wonder if your goal was to cause as much division in this movement as you possibly could.
 
If someone didn't know better, they would wonder if your goal was to cause as much division in this movement as you possibly could.

WOW, seeming as there are more threads about this that I don't start, I would doubt it. I am NOT trying to cause division, just pointing out inconsistencies. Besides, this is from a capitalist perspective, which I don't think has been done. Totally relevant.

I do understand you have a negative bias towards me regarding this subject, it's okay, I wont hold it against you. Although you will against me.
 
It takes a number of dodgy leaps, contractions of quotes and generally making contradictions.

But hey. Yay Communism!
 
WOW, seeming as there are more threads about this that I don't start, I would doubt it. I am NOT trying to cause division, just pointing out inconsistencies. Besides, this is from a capitalist perspective, which I don't think has been done. Totally relevant.

I do understand you have a negative bias towards me regarding this subject, it's okay, I wont hold it against you. Although you will against me.

Actually, one only has to look at what you chose to bold in your first post to see what your goal was. And it had nothing to do with capitalism.
 
Actually, one only has to look at what you chose to bold in your first post to see what your goal was. And it had nothing to do with capitalism.

That bold was copied and pasted from another forum, wasn't my choice. I did however add the "taken from David Icke forum"...
 
"taken from David Icke forum"...
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I don't think you read it... capitalism is mentioned throughout.

I don't think you understand... a user whose handle contains the word "truth" posted this... Truth however, isn't presented anywhere in the opening post.
 
I don't think you understand... a user whose handle contains the word "truth" posted this... Truth however, isn't presented anywhere the OP post.

You're correct, considering it references the bible so many times...

Its also why I posted it in hot topics, and took no credit for the writing. I just thought I'd share. Continue to be asshats though, I enjoy it.
 
As I recently posted elsewhere, The "Mark of the beast" is translated wrong, and should be the money of the beast.
 
Someone said it best here:

"You can't talk logic with someone who talks imaginary." ;)
 
That bold was copied and pasted from another forum, wasn't my choice. I did however add the "taken from David Icke forum"...

You can't copy that way in this editor. I just did it below. (And likewise there is plenty of bold that wasn't copied, it had to be put back in).

"Indeed today it is only the Communists who represent his legacy; the Christian Capitalists represent all that he despised.

Two types of Christians; the hypnotists of the 'Jesus Business' and the hypnotised innocents.

I do not believe that the hypnotists of the Jesus business who claim to be 'experts' on the sayings of Jesus can possibly justify their business by the teachings of Jesus. I consider them to be universally corrupt and pied pipers; those who have vested interests"
 
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Indeed today it is only the Communists who represent his legacy; the Christian Capitalists represent all that he despised.

The hypnotised innocents; the proletariat.

Clearly many Christians are simply hypnotised, and it is they who need to be woken up; that simply requires education.
Yeah, I'll bet. :rolleyes:

YouTube - Soviet National Anthem

Someone said it best here:

"You can't talk logic with someone who talks imaginary." ;)
lol.

Wait a minute. You just started a thread quoting something that promotes Communism. And you're claiming to be the one arguing logic? Seriously?
 
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I have to disagree. Jesus is teaching people to be selfless WITHOUT the government forcing them to do so. Thats as free market as you can get and a far cry from communism or anything anti capitalism.

There's nothing wrong with living as a communist, in fact I very much agree with it. But that doesn't mean the source of that life style should be a mandate from a centralized authority.
 
It's always a chuckle to see the latest intellectual analysis of The Bible from an imbecile who hasn't read it or understood the most basic theme of the Book.

A collection of 66 Books written over thousands of years under inspiration, roughly spanning the reigns of the first 6 world empires, over 4,000 persons, places and things mentioned, hundreds of prophecies, detailed historical accounts... condensed into a single post or 30 minute you tube video by some numb nut who hasn't the faintest clue.

Over the years, I've read them all, but attempting to pin a label of some man-made political ideology on Jesus really is the height of ignorance and shows how astoundingly low the level of education of today's general populace has sunk.

The Bible is the largest selling book in the history of this planet, by billions and billions. It is acknowledged as the greatest book of all times due to its antiquity, its total circulation, the number of languages into which it has been translated, its surpassing greatness as a literary masterpiece and because of its overwhelming importance to all mankind.

The Bible also is distinguished as having survived more violent controversy than any other book, hated as it is by legions of enemies.

I highly recommend reading it, especially before telling others what its contents are and what they mean.

Bosso
 
The Bible is the greatest libertarian manifesto ever written; it is even anarchist in some sections.
 
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