OMG - I feel so bad asking this.....
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Tell everyone about it if they ever mention Obama. Tell them it's been confirmed by his own limo driver that he gives bjs to his limo driver. Tell them he broke the story on youtube. Tell them everyone believes it and blacks won't vote for a gay man.
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It is so ridiculous. I am pretty dissappointed that so many people seem to believe it.
I wouldnt call the guy a liar since you can't prove it didn't happen. Only he and Obama know whether it's true or not. Truth is often stranger than fiction. Anyway, I havent heard anything about it. The YT video has 100K hits though...
The point is that so many people believe it without it being confirmed. It's hypocritical for a lot of people here, but whatever.
Instead let’s believe a guy who made a youtube account one week ago and uploaded a video make ridiculous claims that haven't been picked up by any major news network. The burden of proof is on Larry Sinclair since he is making the accusation. These techniques were used by the Clintons in the 1990s, perfected by Karl Rove in the 2000 election, and were used recently against Ron Paul to paint him as a “racist”.
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If this is a Clinton ploy it would be to the media already. Remember the senator and the bathroom incident, the media ate that up. This is a huge allegation they are ignoring.
I personally don't care if he did something in the back of a limo or not. Thats non of my business. However, I smell foul when the media will report something like this on other people in a heart beat, and not on Obama.
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Hrmm.. Would Ron Paul approve of advocating the use of this kind of tactless, deceitful, malicious, unproven, unprovable, most likely made up, propaganda?
It's one thing to say, Hey someone said this happened, it's on youtube.
It's entirely different to propose it as a generally accepted fact and that it did happen. Advocating this kind of slander makes you look like nothing more than a jackass.
Most people would see through a claim like this that appears to be so far-fetched and off base. They would then assume that everything you have to say is out there. That you're political beliefs are off-base. That Ron Paul supporters are a wacko. And I'd be nuts to believe this crap and support Ron Paul.
Spreading stuff like this in any way other than as a joke because it's funny and being certain people know you are doing it in that matter will do nothing to help Ron Paul.
I dont think that's what I said. I said that no one should label him a liar or a truthteller because we don't know. What's so hard about waiting until (if?) the issue is hashed out? I also know that many politicians are slimeballs so I wouldnt put some halo over Obama's head too quick. What if someone came out and posted the same video about Larry Craig before the airport incident? Same thing.
I'm not telling anyone anything unless it's true. This rumor is completely new to me.
Can we verify that this man was indeed his limo driver? Since Obama opposes gay marriage it would definitely be a legitimate issue to bring up, but we need to conduct ourselves with integrity and avoid Rovian tactics.
If it's true, spread the word, but you better be able to back it up with verifiable data, or you're going to make all of us look like dirtbags.
I can't tell where the guy stands on anything! In one sentence it says he opposes and then there's a "but" and he mutters something else about "balance"....
Barack Obama and Gay Marriage/ Civil Unions: Although Barack Obama has said that he supports civil unions, he is against gay marriage. In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."
Barack Obama did vote against a Federal Marriage Amendment and opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996.
He said he would support civil unions between gay and lesbian couples, as well as letting individual states determine if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized.
"Giving them a set of basic rights would allow them to experience their relationship and live their lives in a way that doesn't cause discrimination," Obama said. "I think it is the right balance to strike in this society."
Sources: Chicago Daily Tribune, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
Barack Obama and Gay Marriage/ Civil Unions: Although Barack Obama has said that he supports civil unions, he is against gay marriage. In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."
Barack Obama did vote against a Federal Marriage Amendment and opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996.
He said he would support civil unions between gay and lesbian couples, as well as letting individual states determine if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized.
"Giving them a set of basic rights would allow them to experience their relationship and live their lives in a way that doesn't cause discrimination," Obama said. "I think it is the right balance to strike in this society."
Sources: Chicago Daily Tribune, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
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