OLD THREAD:Gold will plummet: the dollar will strengthen.

Dollars.

I have money that I want to buy precious metals with but I am wondering whether I should wait for the prices to come down a little bit or not, if prices continue to rise in terms of dollars.

Personally I would just buy now and hold it. A few dollars in silver or 100 bucks in gold won't make a difference if you are buying to hold. I think its going much higher and will stay at those levels.

With that said, some people think gold is a bubble, so it's up to you.
 
YumYum is missing out on exactly HOW the dollars are going to come back. He mistakenly thinks that they will flow back from foreign central banks into our central bank. This is wrong. Remember, each central bank is looking out for their own best interest. To this point, it has been in their best interest to prop up the dollar, while quietly reducing their exposure. The central banks of western nations tend to operate as a block, but we will likely find that it will quickly become "every man for himself" as the dollar continues its decline. Once the Asian banks start dumping in earnest, and openly, the Europeans will be forced to abandon America or face the destruction of their own economies.

How will they divest themselves of their dollars? They may do so quietly at first by selling them to the Fed in exchange for whatever they have on their balance sheet that isn't worthless (basically, their gold and their foreign currency holdings). Once those run out, they are going to use them to purchase anything and everything that won't lose value as the dollar collapses. This means commodities, production capacity, scrap metal, anything that isn't bolted to the floor. This means that the prices for all of those things in terms of dollars will explode, as they will be buying them on the open market, not in closed deals between central banks.

tmosley was spot on with this prediction. The question is: how long will this continue?
 
tmosley is a genius. I think that is his frustration. He made an excellent observation to my theory, and here was my reply:

Turning over the Government’s credit to private bankers in 1913 gave them unlimited opportunities to create money. The Federal Reserve System could also destroy money in large quantities through open market operations. Governor Marriner Eccles said, at the Silver Hearings of 1939:

"When you sell bonds on the open market, you extinguish reserves."

Extinguishing reserves means wiping out a basis for money and credit issue, or, tightening up on money and credit, a condition which is usually even more favorable to bankers than the creation of money. Calling in or destroying money gives the banker immediate and unlimited control of the financial situation, since he is the only one with money and the only one with the power to issue money in a time of money shortage. The money panics of 1873, 1893, 1920-21, and 1929-31, were characterized by a drawing in of the circulating medium. In economical terms, this does not sound like such a terrible thing, but when it means that people do not have money to pay their rent or buy food, and when it means that an employer has to lay off three-fourths of his help because he cannot borrow the money to pay them, the enormous guilt of the bankers and the long record of suffering and misery for which they are responsible would suggest that no punishment might be too severe for their crimes against their fellowmen.
 
bump...because I have been reading that some gold bugs are nervous about gold.

Source please.

I'd have to see it to believe it and they'd have to not be posting newbs with a 1/10 GAE scared about whether they should sell or not.
 
Gold is not yet a bubble but it will become one in a few years, probably.

A bubble, is by definition, when the value of some asset becomes completely unrelated to its underlying supply/demand fundamentals.

As the PMs have little industrial use, their entire value is derived from being a safe haven. As we have a president with no desire to even begin to try to balance the budget and a fed chairman who thinks printing money will cure all, the fundamentals remain strong bullish.
 
gold at 1500 is still not a prediction coming true

QE2 will end, tanking our economy. Then the Fed will have an excuse to begin QE3, which will bring hyper-inflation. There will be a period of deflation before hyper-inflation.
 
Interesting that equities have taken a beating lately yet Au and Ag are steady and even gaining for Au. Dollar isn't a safe haven anymore. YumYum's whole theory is based on the premise that the dollar is still the ultimate safe haven. But is it? Doesn't look like it to me.
 
Humble Pie :)

g12c000000000000000e1eaa27a0bf04c0e8d1d20f8fabe40ffe6e0f275.jpg
:)
 
Well, between the ass whoppin' I got on this thread and the beating I'm taking in the religion sub-forum, I've been licking my wounds. And how is your summer?

Michael Pento said a few months back he cut his gold holdings in half because of the exact reason you stated. You are at least in good company. It still could happen if things get very bad before the fed acts.
 
Back
Top