Ok...so meet here in 4 years?

Because electoral politics is the only way the State will free us from the State...? Lol.

we're fked

all these Paul's, we're just pretending we're not fked, ignoring the fact that we're fked, etc.

The handful of people in charge are just getting worse. This time around the Paul candidate wasn't the only one who wanted votes from pissed off people. This time, some, many, pissed off people voted for someone other than Paul. A bad time to run when you want votes from pissed off people is when Sanders, Trump, Cruz and Carson are all saying that they're pissed and things suck, especially when the people who run things don't want you to win.
 
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What are some of you thinking about? Even if Rand had gotten elected as President, he couldn't have fixed it all. There are local and state elections we need to be winning. Those are the most important. Then, there are elections for U.S. Senate and the House.

It's only over if you want to throw in the towel.
 
What are some of you thinking about? Even if Rand had gotten elected as President, he couldn't have fixed it all. There are local and state elections we need to be winning. Those are the most important. Then, there are elections for U.S. Senate and the House.

It's only over if you want to throw in the towel.

^ I agree with this.

I hate to say it, but anytime in history when someone or an organization wanted to take over, they had to take the lower seats of power first to help build a whole lot of support for the Top guy. It was always from the bottom up. Not from the top down. Rand couldn't have changed much as President except do away with some executive orders from the past and Veto a lot (which helps but won't change the hearts and minds of the people) The biggest obstacle would be an obvious rebellious Media to Paul and an even more stubborn and corrupted Congress.

It's always going to take a bottom up method and building a much larger and stronger Liberty base to really transform the country back into it's roots.

That's why I'm considering voting third party once November comes to help support another party coming in.
 
Yes, here in 3 years.

Yes concentrate on the Senate, the House and local elections but we need a Paul in the white house.
and now nominate Ron from the Libertarian Party with enough support so he can get into the main general election debates like Ross Perot and carry alot of L candidates into a bigger deal all over.
 
We wont be here in 4 years... I'm predicting Clinton or Sanders gets elected and that's that. The US will collapse in on itself due to unsustainable policies and constant wars. RIP USA 1776 - 2016.

The US won't be here every 4 years, yet it is.
 
Lord willing, and I'm upright and taking nourishment, I'll be here, trying to bring awareness and action to what I consider to be critical issues.
 
Something tells me if this place survived two failed Ron potus runs it can handle a failed Rand run. I'm here for the brush fire.
 
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