Officials: Man who knew Boston bombing suspect was unarmed when shot

[Warlord]

Paging Zippyjuan and media who parroted the nonsense that he was armed/attacked the agents

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A Chechen man who was fatally shot by an FBI agent last week during an interview about one of the Boston bombing suspects was unarmed, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

An air of mystery has surrounded the FBI shooting of Ibragim Todashev, 27, since it occurred in Todashev’s apartment early on the morning of May 22. The FBI said in a news release that day that Todashev, a former Boston resident who knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was killed during an interview with several law enforcement officers.

The FBI has provided few other details, saying that the matter is being investigated by an FBI review team that may not finish its probe for several months.

“The FBI takes very seriously any shooting incidents involving our agents and as such we have an effective, time-tested process for addressing them internally,” FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said in a statement Wednesday. “The review process is thorough and objective and conducted as expeditiously as possible under the circumstances.”

The Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations on Wednesday called for an independent investigation by the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. Officials said the division and local prosecutors are already reviewing the case.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...f05b74-c8a8-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story.html

 

[phill4paul]

Just tying up lose ends. Dead finks don't talk too well.

 

[Bruno]

It's sure hard not be a conspiracy theorist when stuff like this keeps coming out.

 

[kathy88]

“The FBI takes very seriously any shooting incidents involving our agents and as such we have an effective, time-tested process for addressing them internally,” FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said in a statement Wednesday. “The review process is thorough and objective and conducted as expeditiously as possible under the circumstances.”

Translation: The FBI knows we fucked up, and we have an effective, time-wasting process for helping the public to forget about the incident because it takes so long. The review process is non-existant and fuck you mundane"

 

[thoughtomator]

Anyone see the pic of the corpse? Shot in the top of the head. This was an execution, pure and simple.

 

[FriedChicken]

Paging Zippyjuan and media who parroted the nonsense that he was armed/attacked the agents

I'm not real familiar with Zippy but badgering forum members who have disagreed with you in the past, specifically regarding conspiracies, by name in a mocking or gloating way is, if I had to guess, what got you banned in the past.

I disagreed with the decision to perma ban you and still think it was a bad call - but I don't think the mods were out of place by calling out your behavior if that is what actually happened.

At the moment I'm assuming that the mods aren't able to prove that you're a former user who was banned or they would ban you again. Maybe they aren't trying until you give them a reason to. But please do not sink back into the habit of perpetually harping on members who disagree with you ... aside from personal attacks towards people that make it onto your enemy list you're a good contributor to the forum.

 

[Warlord]

I'm not real familiar with Zippy but badgering forum members who have disagreed with you in the past, specifically regarding conspiracies, by name in a mocking or gloating way is, if I had to guess, what got you banned in the past.

I disagreed with the decision to perma ban you and still think it was a bad call - but I don't think the mods were out of place by calling out your behavior if that is what actually happened.

At the moment I'm assuming that the mods aren't able to prove that you're a former user who was banned or they would ban you again. Maybe they aren't trying until you give them a reason to. But please do not sink back into the habit of perpetually harping on members who disagree with you ... aside from personal attacks towards people that make it onto your enemy list you're a good contributor to the forum.

Warlord isn't badgering the point he's making to the forum (and the media at large) is that they're too quick to parrot official nonsense. Always best to wait for the facts to come out before reaching a conclusion as they always seem to do in these cases. Funny isn't it!

 

[pcosmar]

Why Did the FBI Kill an Unarmed Man and Clam Up?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...e-fbi-kill-an-unarmed-man-and-clam-up/276369/

Law enforcement can't get its story straight in the worrisome case of Ibragim Todashev.

Well,, imagine that.

http://www.newsday.com/news/world/father-of-man-fbi-shot-claims-his-son-was-executed-1.5368342
http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-linked...d-shot-violent/story?id=19284007#.Uad4OXwilIM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...i-agent-reniya-manukyan-agent-dave-couvertier
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...d7f80c-c936-11e2-9245-773c0123c027_story.html

 

[pcosmar]

Oops.. There is a thread on this. Missed it

can be merged please.

 

[pcosmar]

I'm not real familiar with Zippy but badgering forum members who have disagreed with you in the past, specifically regarding conspiracies, by name in a mocking or gloating way is, if I had to guess, what got you banned in the past.

Zippy is one of the forums more talented and persistent trolls.
And he should be called out when proven wrong.

 

[pcosmar]

It's sure hard not be a conspiracy theorist when stuff like this keeps coming out.

You have to be pretty damn ignorant not to be.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

It's sure hard not be a conspiracy theorist when stuff like this keeps coming out.

Yeah, pretty much.

 

[asurfaholic]

Dead men tale no tells.

 

[Warlord]

Holder needs to go !!

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Anyone see the pic of the corpse? Shot in the top of the head. This was an execution, pure and simple.

Top of the head?

Link?

 

[green73]

Anyone see the pic of the corpse? Shot in the top of the head. This was an execution, pure and simple.

Father Of Florida Man Connected To Tsarnaev: FBI Killed My Son ‘Execution-Style’

The father of a Chechen immigrant killed while being interrogated by the FBI about his ties to a Boston Marathon bombings suspect says agents killed his son “execution style,” reports AP. There was even a shot to the back of the head.

At a press conference Thursday in Moscow, Abdul-Baki Todashev showed journalists 16 photographs he said were of his son, Ibragim, in a Florida morgue. He said his son had six gunshot wounds to his torso and one to the back of his head and the pictures were taken by his son’s friend, Khusen Taramov.

WESH-TV is reporting that unidentified FBI sources now say that Todashev was unarmed.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/05/father-of-florida-man-connected-to.html

 

[jkr]

SOP

 

[green73]

Top of the head?

Link?

http://www.dailypaul.com/287139/kil...spect-s-friend-took-fbi-bullet-to-top-of-head

 

[jclay2]

BUMP, this is a major story. I am a little disappointed with the attention that all of the boston bombing news has been getting. Even on this forum, its like people don't want to look into it just because the bombing took place over a month ago.

 

[amy31416]

I've read up on this a bit--was there a thread on this already?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Waltham_murders

In the wake of the revelations about the violent nature of accused marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, investigators in the Boston suburbs tell ABC News they are probing whether he may have been involved in an unsolved grisly triple homicide of a former roommate and two others. The murders took place around the tenth anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

"We are looking at a possible connection with the suspect in the marathon atrocity and this active and open homicide in Waltham,'' Stephanie Guyotte, a spokeswoman for the Middlesex County District Attorney, confirmed to ABC News.

Tsarnaev, the alleged bombing mastermind who died in a fierce gun battle with police early Friday morning, had been training with one of the 2011 murder victims in an attempt to transition from boxing into a possible career in the brutal sport of mixed-martial arts.

The victims were found in a Waltham, Massachusetts apartment. They had their throat slashed, their heads nearly decapitated. Their mutilated bodies were left covered with marijuana.

It was a gruesome scene – but also perplexing to law enforcement. While drugs appeared to factor into the motive, the murderer left both the marijuana and thousands of dollars in cash behind in the Waltham apartment. While the investigation has been active for more than a year, authorities acknowledged they have had few leads.


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Two law enforcement sources told ABC News that may now change, with the bomb attack prompting a fresh look into Tsarnaev's alleged penchant for violence.

Even before the bombing, police records show, there was an indication of a rage growing inside of Tsarnaev. Court documents obtained by ABC News show in July 2009 he was arrested for domestic violence after his then-girlfriend made a frantic 911 to report she was "being beat up by her boyfriend." The police report, which was redacted to hide the girlfriend's name, says that Tsarnaev admitted to responding officers that he slapped her. The case was later dismissed.

Tsarnaev had also been close to one of the murder victims, 25-year-old Brendan Mess, investigators told ABC. The two had been training together in a local gym –each helping the other with a missing element from their fighting arsenal. Tsarnaev, a golden-gloves heavy weight boxer, lacked martial arts training. And Mess, an experienced jiu jitsu competitor, lacked boxing experience.

The two sparred together at an Allston, MA gym called Wai Kru. The gym's head trainer, John Allan, provided a statement to the Boston Globe via Facebook message saying that Tamerlan "came into the gym to spar from time to time."

Tsarnaev and Mess lived just a few blocks apart in Cambridge, in the same predominantly Russian neighborhood. Authorities believe there were times Mess crashed at Tsarnaev's apartment.

It was unclear if Tsarnaev knew the other men slain, Raphael Teken, 37, and Erik Weissman, 31.

More at link: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bosto...-triple-murder/story?id=19015628#.UaeAY0BOO9H