OFFICIAL Virginia Gubernatorial Election RESULTS THREAD

Minor tactical setback, I was slightly disappointed for 5 mins and pretty optimiostic about 2016 again.

Against, Hillary.. Christie will have no chance just as his chances of winning GOP nimination remain near nill. USA is not NJ or VA.

Left media like Salon and even mother of all neecons NYT has gone on attack against Rand this week, I see this as a good sign for 2016.

Some risk taken by RP in tactical move, didn't workout but in bigger sceheme it is a minor blip imo.
 
Cruz and Rand better to make some kind of deal because we are going to need a strong first place finish in Iowa. I think we stay in the game only with a strong first place in Iowa and a win in NH.

You know, I've been wondering for a long time if they already did ... going back to when RP endorsed Cruz without a quid pro quo.
 
Polling showed Sarvis was taking more votes from McAullife than Cuccinelli.

I saw a poll before the election that showed Sarvis not taking from anyone, but his supporters might have been more likely to vote for Ken than McAullife if he wasn't running. Do you have a source for your poll, because it contradicts what I've seen and what some people here might have said.
 
Cuccinelli IMPURE. Crickets about the other two. Who were they kidding?

Which is why the libertarian movement has spent 40 years wandering in the wilderness. Guys like Rand, Lee, Cruz, Amash, Stockman, Massie, etc. aren't good enough because they are only 70% to 95% libertarian. Well looking at the state of the country, getting people in office who are just 60% libertarian would be a leap in the right direction.
 
They are liberty positions to the Libertarian Party.

The Libertarian Party supporting those positions does not make them liberty positions. The Libertarian Party isn't about the liberty movement it is about getting votes, access to balloting. They have shown they are more than willing to sell out on principles and really don't stand for anything. They are no different than any other party, I don't know why some have trouble realizing this.

If they have a great candidate then great, but supporting them just because they have libertarian in their party name is silly.
 
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Wow... there is just so much stupid in this thread.

Let me just say this right now: People like CaptLouAlbano and the people who agree with him (You know who you are) were never on our team.

And, Ted Cruz's team is not the same as Rand Paul's team. I know that wasn't the topic of this thread per say, but the people who support both are predominately on Ted Cruz's team. They aren't helping.

I'm not saying I agree one way or the other, I am only pointing out that the people on this board have their panties in a bunch because members of the Libertarian Party supported their own candidate over Cuccinelli and are trying to hold Cuccinelli up as the patron saint of all that is liberty. I don't care to get into an ideological discussion over what does and what doesn't define liberty, I am just trying to explain that they had no obligation to support anyone but their own candidate.

I honestly have to agree with many here that the LP is a joke (Note that this is not an endorsement of Cuccinelli or blaming Savaris in any way just because he decided to run). That doesn't necessarily mean don't vote for them, I don't care who you protest vote for, but I wouldn't take them very seriously.

The Libertarian Party seems like more of a "Fiscally Conservative/Socially Liberal" party now for the most part, which isn't what I view libertarianism as being about.

That's not to say that there aren't any "liberal" positions that are also libertarian positions, but you know how the beltway is, making it out like Libertarians are basically Republicans who support gay marriage and abortion, the whole "Fiscally responsible, socially tolerant" line.

I remember taking that whole "ISideWith" Test and seeing which parties I sign with. The Libertarian Party is more liberal than me on basically every issue. Not just abortion and gay marriage. They're also way softer on entitlements, foreign policy, and civil liberties, and that's taking into account the limitations of the test (I mostly answered like a minarchist because there weren't really any ancap options for any of the questions.)


No the whole Rand/Ron/Amash/lee/cruz took a horrible probably unrecoverable hit today with the help of you and your cohorts. You want war within the ranks of the rand/ron wing you are going to get. I really do give a shit anymore.

Ron and Cruz are not on the same team. If Ron thinks he is, he's wrong and honestly a bit naive at best.

But honestly, I don't give a crap about Rand or Ron. Ron Paul was my inspiration for starting the journey into liberty in the first place, and for that I owe him a great debt. If Ron were to ever run for anything himself, I'd be 100% behind him. But he's still fallible, and if he's wrong, he's wrong. Citing Ron as if he's some kind of authority, especially those who by their own admissions like Rand better anyway, is just absurd. Because frankly, he isn't. I can say to his credit that he was likely the best congressman in American History, but as I've mentioned, Ron's endorsements are probably his biggest fault in general. There isn't really a "Ron Coalition" because not everyone who supports Ron agrees with him on everything, and not everyone who supports Ron supports the same people otherwise.

As for Rand, I really, really don't care who he endorses (He even endorsed Romney recently, which isn't a shock considering his position, but it does show his endorsements should be ignored). Right now I'm giving him my vote, but I'm not thrilled with him by any means.


And I should care what you think because?? First of all Einstein, I don't belong to the Libertarian Party so why would I represent them at all? And Captain Lou Albano has called people cunts and called CC and I the "Sodomy Sisters" several times in this thread...and "I" have no decorum? I give as good as I get so please spare me the lecture.

Don't let the Republican paid infiltraitor (Misspelling deliberate) get to you too much;)


When were we on the same team?

Exactly.
I saw a poll before the election that showed Sarvis not taking from anyone, but his supporters might have been more likely to vote for Ken than McAullife if he wasn't running. Do you have a source for your poll, because it contradicts what I've seen and what some people here might have said.

"Do you have a source, because it contradicts this other stuff that I've seen that also doesn't have a source":p

Sorry, couldn't resist:)
 
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Which is why the libertarian movement has spent 40 years wandering in the wilderness. Guys like Rand, Lee, Cruz, Amash, Stockman, Massie, etc. aren't good enough because they are only 70% to 95% libertarian. Well looking at the state of the country, getting people in office who are just 60% libertarian would be a leap in the right direction.

Cajun is right. Not all of us here were ever really on the same team.

This kind of compromise speak sounds like it came straight out of the GOP.

The people you mentioned also vary wildly in "purity." I admit I'd be a little disappointed in someone who didn't think Amash or Massie were worthy of our support. I'm also disappointed in the people who seriously think Ted Cruz is.
 
Cajun is right. Not all of us here were ever really on the same team.

This kind of compromise speak sounds like it came straight out of the GOP.

The people you mentioned also vary wildly in "purity." I admit I'd be a little disappointed in someone who didn't think Amash or Massie were worthy of our support. I'm also disappointed in the people who seriously think Ted Cruz is.

And the better alternative to Cruz was? Medina didn't make the cut, so that left Dewhurst as the alternative to Cruz - the guy who blocked almost every pro liberty bill as Lt. Governor.
 
Cajun is right. Not all of us here were ever really on the same team.

This kind of compromise speak sounds like it came straight out of the GOP.

The people you mentioned also vary wildly in "purity." I admit I'd be a little disappointed in someone who didn't think Amash or Massie were worthy of our support. I'm also disappointed in the people who seriously think Ted Cruz is.


I'm for Amash and Massie. Cruz not so much even though I voted for him.
 
And the better alternative to Cruz was? Medina didn't make the cut, so that left Dewhurst as the alternative to Cruz - the guy who blocked almost every pro liberty bill as Lt. Governor.

It is true that she wasn't 1 of the 9 GOP candidates that ran. Why mention her name anyway? Are you trying to say she was a liberty candidate or something? I don't get it.
 
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