***Official Tuesday Live Convention Thread***

[Bastiat's The Law]

The point of staying in the GOP doesn't have to be about electing a torchbearer as President as soon as 2016 (although Rand does have a shot, despite a lot of people's dislike of him and his inability to live up to Ron). Instead, it's about taking control over the GOP's resources to run a lot more Justin Amashes and Kerry Bentivolios and such. We barely have the resources to get a few seats in Congress, let alone the majority (even two thirds majority) we need. Taking over the state parties and RNC would also knock the neocons out of power in the party, forcing them to get active with the Democrats or a new third party to marginalize us again...and by putting establishment resources behind a third party, they'd be giving us an unprecedented opportunity to break the two-party system long enough to change the election laws, before the system reasserted itself in another form. Either way, if we take over the Republican party from the ground up, we're moving forward considerably.

I truly hope we do not need the constant presence of a figurehead like Ron to keep us inspired and active...if so, we are indeed in trouble, so I'd urge everyone to do some soul searching about finding a less ephemeral motivation.

It's vitally important to continue our efforts to show this movement is more than a cult of personality. No idols, just liberty.

 

[opal]

*snip*

If only Ron would run 3rd and GJ honor his plege to concede the top ticket to Paul. I and many others would vote Paul/Johnson no prob.

This ticket I'd vote for

 

[DrHendricks]

SUNUNU just said that Romney and Santorum both had 35 percent in Iowa and Ron Paul only had single digits.

 

[Bruno]

Can we all now realize they would have SCREWED us even if we had won Iowa (New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Maine, Washington, Nevada, etc.) and put that fight behind us?

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

And once the Iowas start to come about and dominos start to fall... man these people are going to shit themselves.


Im not saying they won't keep breaking the rules, i'm not saying it won't be depressing and hard and a complete challenge, i'm not saying you'll be happy with the GOP for the foreseeable future, but when the dominos start to fall and when our will breaks theirs...

When time catches up to them and this generation is still here dancing on their graves... no matter how long it takes, if we stand together and fight under the same banner we cannot and will not be stopped. At the very least time will equalize this and we will retake this party.

Some battles we fight will be won, others will be lost, but we will win the war! Time is on our side.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

It was stacked at the local level in the sense that we didn't have Liberty supporters in office. That's about to change. You have to inject yourself into the local level and start taking it over through winning offices and committee positions and delegate slots, attending off year conventions where leadership is elected, etc. It's not going to fall into our laps. You have to make it happen.

Absolutely correct. If this was going to be easy everyone would do it.

 

[RonRules]

Not a single delegate would stand up for Newt!

Through 56 states and territories:

Mitt Romney - 2061
Ron Paul - 190
Abstain - 18
Rick Santorum - 9
Buddy Roehmer - 1
Jon Huntsman - 1
Michelle Bachmann - 1

Yet the media was all over him for weeks.

 

[Chadd Murray]

Not a single delegate would stand up for Newt!

Through 56 states and territories:

Mitt Romney - 2061
Ron Paul - 190
Abstain - 18
Rick Santorum - 9
Buddy Roehmer - 1
Jon Huntsman - 1
Michelle Bachmann - 1

Yet the media was all over him for weeks.

He told all his delegates to vote for Romney.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

http://www.c-span.org/

#cspanRNC


let your voice be heard

 

[opinionatedfool]

I'm sick of the Mitt worship. Blah! I'm done watching this stupid thing and I just had time to get started.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

Through 56 states and territories:

Mitt Romney - 2061
Ron Paul - 190
Abstain - 18
Rick Santorum - 9
Buddy Roehmer - 1
Jon Huntsman - 1
Michelle Bachmann - 1

Yet the media was all over him for weeks.

I don't know how you can't be proud as hell looking at that.

We put up a hell of a fight and our abstainers (you know those were our guys, they had to be) outranked the rest of the field COMBINED

 

[awake]

Reince Priebus is a grease ball...

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

We weren't very far off from winning Iowa, so this might not apply there, but I doubt in future elections we will be able to gain such a large share of the delegates while only receiving a small percentage of the votes. It's a shame that there isn't more of an agreement or plan or obvious best choice on how to proceed (but not a surprise). I wish everyone well that decides to continue pursuing the GOP route, but I personally think y'all are crazy.

I think people who stay home and complain on forums are crazy.

 

[jointhefightforfreedom]

we need Ron Paul Sign All thru the convention TV Coverage

 

[69360]

Am I the only one who looks at Preibus and sees this?

 

[Bruno]

Reince Priebus is a grease ball...

And is he drunker than this afternoon, or is it just me?

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

I think people who stay home and complain on forums are crazy.

Stay home and complain on forums? Way to act like a douche because I gave my opinion....

 

[Mini-Me]

We weren't very far off from winning Iowa, so this might not apply there, but I doubt in future elections we will be able to gain such a large share of the delegates while only receiving a small percentage of the votes. It's a shame that there isn't more of an agreement or plan or obvious best choice on how to proceed (but not a surprise). I wish everyone well that decides to continue pursuing the GOP route, but I personally think y'all are crazy.

We can take over states with local activism alone (enough people just showing up to meetings), and from there we can replace the RNC. After that, we can exert influence over the platform, the voting slates mailed to party members, etc., and ultimately change the nomination rules to make the process work however we want it to work, basically (i.e. all states having proportional delegation and caucus/convention processes...and more transparent caucus/primary counts, since Romney's team appears to have seriously tweaked the central tabulator for votes this go-around). Plus, we'd be using the party's resources to give our guys a fair shot in primaries, then actually prioritize party resources to focus on liberty candidates instead of statists in general elections. In short, we could do the complete opposite of everything the current RNC and [most] state chairs are doing today. The media would still work against us, but with control over the party, we'd be replacing a prominent mouthpiece for neoconservative statism with a voice for liberty. By doing so, we'd be showing the grassroots Republicans who to back if they actually want to be on the "winning team" - which the Republican base is known to want.

 

[Barrex]

That is picture of "average american" people in Europe have...

 

[kathy88]

And is he drunker than this afternoon, or is it just me?

Yes and he looks like a spastic gerbil.