***Official Tuesday Live Convention Thread***

[mport1]

Did they cancel Rand Paul's speech yet?

No, that will be coming shortly though.

 

[PursuePeace]

Just got home and I've missed the last 6 hours...
I'm totally out of the loop... 26 pages of posts.... GAH!!!!!

Anyone kind enough to give me a quick update.
Last thing I heard was Ron was going to show up at the convention..

help me. I'm dyin' here.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

Gary Johnson will not win, but 5%+ could be a wake up call to some and change the future four years from now.

Nothing happened when Perot ran.

 

[Mini-Me]

The current game cannot continue. The iron laws of economics will bring the house down eventually. In your lifetime. When it comes down, the fucks who run the show now will come down with it. It is up to us to be ready, to be organized, to be in place to raise liberty from the ashes.

Yes...and emphasis on the organized part, because if this whole thing collapses before we can save it, the masses will demand another government, and WE must be their delegates to a Constitutional convention.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's why most of the shenanigans weren't televised on national TV, like all the stuff with the rules committee, the bus, and Maine.

LOL - Watched a local news blurb about the RNC.

All was sunshine and lollipops and "what type of dress is Anne Romney going to wear?"

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

A Romney win will set back the liberty movement 16 years.

Not really. We got Tom Davis gunning for Lindsey Graham in 2014.

 

[mac_hine]

Read through about 15 pages, at 40 posts per page.

I'm done.

I'll just drop this off here...

 

[Anti Federalist]

Just got home and I've missed the last 6 hours...
I'm totally out of the loop... 26 pages of posts.... GAH!!!!!

Anyone kind enough to give me a quick update.
Last thing I heard was Ron was going to show up at the convention..

help me. I'm dyin' here.

I'll save ya the headache...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...n-Thread-***&p=4609527&viewfull=1#post4609527

 

[sailingaway]

Just got home and I've missed the last 6 hours...
I'm totally out of the loop... 26 pages of posts.... GAH!!!!!

Anyone kind enough to give me a quick update.
Last thing I heard was Ron was going to show up at the convention..

help me. I'm dyin' here.

Ron got nomination papers in by 6 states but they moved the goal post so no speech. But anyone paying any attention knows how bad the cheating was. They also got the rules changes through, which means Romney loses because the grass roots of EVERY type will hate him.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

These people are scared. Scared enough to make fools of themselves on national TV. They want us out so bad that they would rather lose elections than win and risk losing control of "their" party to us. I don't think we should take the bait. I think we should keep taking over county and state Republican organizations until we have the majority on their precious RNC. As long as they stick to their tired policies and rhetoric and as long as the standard of living of average people continues to decline, they don't have a prayer of stopping us. It is simply a matter of time ... as long as we do not lose our will.

Now that is a great post and path to victory! +Rep

 

[sailingaway]

The Libertarian Party were seconds away from nominating Mary Ruwart, an Anarcho-Capitalist in the turest sense of the word in '08. The only reason Barr got the nod was because the mainstream got ahead in the votes but the Anarchists usually rule that party. In 88 the anarchists nominated Ron Paul. They went with Gary Johnson because Johnson has the most experience and they hope to appeal to the ordinary person in the street. I love RP, but Libertarianism is the main goal (not one man) so it's Johnson '12.

If Johnson wins, Ron Paul will smoke a joint in happiness...

Ron Paul personally is against drugs and says he's not sure he's even seen a marijuana cigarette in his life.

 

[Carson]

Heard this at work and thought about you guys.

The***Official Tuesday Live Convention Thread *** thread music...or not.

Muse - Uprising (HQ) WITH LYRICS (Read them at you tube by clicking on the video. (Then "Show More"))



P.S. I was going to mention in the beginning of the post that I hope it isn't to late. Then I thought against saying it. Actually this is all just beginning.

 

[Carlybee]

Read through about 15 pages, at 40 posts per page.

I'm done.

I'll just drop this off here...

I wish I could +++rep you

 

[Mini-Me]

Just got home and I've missed the last 6 hours...
I'm totally out of the loop... 26 pages of posts.... GAH!!!!!

Anyone kind enough to give me a quick update.
Last thing I heard was Ron was going to show up at the convention..

help me. I'm dyin' here.

The establishment ensured the bus taking Virginians (etc.) to the rules committee picked them up an hour late and delayed them as much as possible, so they missed the meeting and couldn't vote on behalf of their minority report. Maine was unseated, but there were apparently replacement delegates (14 for Romney, 10 for Paul), so the injustice of it all was not apparent. The Colorado chairman apparently abstained on behalf of the Ron Paul delegates he was speaking for, since he couldn't bring himself to give their count. The establishment played microphone tricks and seated Paul supporters in the nosebleeds, so the cameras saw only Romney signs. Our delegate totals ended up at least than half of what they should have been, indicating a lot more BS that ordinary viewers wouldn't figure out. Romney was ultimately nominated with over 2000 votes, and some blonde witch refused to repeat Ron Paul's votes after each state...she only repeated Romney's. Everything that was televised looked to go smoothly (except for her, and Wolf Blitzer at CNN pointed out how they're ignoring Ron Paul's votes), but there were tons of shenanigans behind the scenes beforehand. Oh, and Paul Ryan won the VP slot by default over loud apparent "nays," since the leadership invoked the rule about him being the only one with enough support ahead of time to be considered. The creeps celebrated Romney's nomination with some terrible version of "Shout," and they have no idea that they're going to lose the general election.

 

[PursuePeace]

Thank you SailingAway and AF!

ok, gotta go catch up.

 

[PursuePeace]

The establishment ensured the bus taking Virginians (etc.) to the rules committee picked them up an hour late and delayed them as much as possible, so they missed the meeting and couldn't vote on behalf of their minority report. Maine was unseated, but there were apparently replacement delegates (14 for Romney, 10 for Paul), so the injustice of it all was not apparent. The Colorado chairman apparently abstained on behalf of the Ron Paul delegates he was speaking for, since he couldn't bring himself to give their count. The establishment played microphone tricks and seated Paul supporters in the nosebleeds, so the cameras saw only Romney signs. Our delegate totals ended up at least than half of what they should have been, indicating a lot more BS that ordinary viewers wouldn't figure out. Romney was ultimately nominated with over 2000 votes, and some blonde witch refused to repeat Ron Paul's votes after each state...she only repeated Romney's. Everything that was televised looked to go smoothly (except for her, and Wolf Blitzer at CNN pointed out how they're ignoring Ron Paul's votes), but there were tons of shenanigans behind the scenes beforehand. Oh, and Paul Ryan won the VP slot by default over loud apparent "nays," since the leadership invoked the rule about him being the only one with enough support ahead of time to be considered. The creeps celebrated Romney's nomination with some terrible version of "Shout," and they have no idea that they're going to lose the general election.

None of this suprises me, of course... but just... wow.
I have no words at the moment.
thank you for the info, Mini-Me.

 

[Bruno]

Read through about 15 pages, at 40 posts per page.

I'm done.

I'll just drop this off here...

+ rep, powerful image at a crossroads

Most Americans don't realize what patriotism can lead to (chants of U.S.A. over Ron Paul cheers), how blind consent can slip into a takeover of total power, what enthusiasm over skepticism can result in, and what breaking rules to seek power when it is "your side" can turn to bite you when the "other side" uses the same tactics.

It is easy to get caught up in the moment, and get passionately behind a person/candidate. Look at supporters of Obama. Look at overzealous patriots who supported Bush and the wars. You don't have to look far, history is full of examples. Look at some of us, we are all passionate, though our desire to restore liberty sets us apart.

My host grandmother from Germany (I was an exchange student for a year there in '87-88) told me how when Hitler was rising to power, her husband was against him, and was disgusted how others were shouting for him and so behind him. "He's just a man, like anyone else!" He would say.

Then he saw Hitler speak in person with her. "He was cheering louder for him than anyone else!" she said. She couldn't believe it.

He would later get shot in the war in the back after an American soldier who captured him stole his watch and then told him to run for his life. Other Americans saved him and he actually had better thoughts about Americans due to the care of those that treated him. He's never talked to another American in 40 years until he met me. Great old man. I miss him.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Powerful image?

Powerful story, thanks for sharing that, +rep.

+ rep, powerful image at a crossroads

Most Americans don't realize what patriotism can lead to (chants of U.S.A. over Ron Paul cheers), how blind consent can slip into a takeover of total power, what enthusiasm over skepticism can result in, and what breaking rules to seek power when it is "your side" can turn to bite you when the "other side" uses the same tactics.

It is easy to get caught up in the moment, and get passionately behind a person/candidate. Look at supporters of Obama. Look at overzealous patriots who supported Bush and the wars. You don't have to look far, history is full of examples. Look at some of us, we are all passionate, though our desire to restore liberty sets us apart.

My host grandmother from Germany (I was an exchange student for a year there in '87-88) told me how when Hitler was rising to power, her husband was against him, and was disgusted how others were shouting for him and so behind him. "He's just a man, like anyone else!" He would say.

Then he saw Hitler speak in person with her. "He was cheering louder for him than anyone else!" she said. She couldn't believe it.

He would later get shot in the war in the back after an American soldier who captured him stole his watch and then told him to run for his life. Other Americans saved him and he actually had better thoughts about Americans due to the care of those that treated him. He's never talked to another American in 40 years until he met me. Great old man. I miss him.

 

[LibertyEagle]

A couple of Texas delegates (not RP's) were just interviewed on CSPAN and the interviewer mentioned RP and asked if he thought they would get behind Romney. The delegate said they have had their dissent and hopefully, we can mend some fences.

To that, I say F that. You burned down the damn fence!!!

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Iowa has shown us the blueprint of what we need to do. Stay active in the party and you'll make your state into the next Iowa!

We weren't very far off from winning Iowa, so this might not apply there, but I doubt in future elections we will be able to gain such a large share of the delegates while only receiving a small percentage of the votes. It's a shame that there isn't more of an agreement or plan or obvious best choice on how to proceed (but not a surprise). I wish everyone well that decides to continue pursuing the GOP route, but I personally think y'all are crazy.