***Official Tuesday Live Convention Thread***

[Mini-Me]

Nope. Ron will be too old. Rand is definitely not the answer. We need to seriously take a step back after this and think about what we can do. Politics is a joke, and maybe we should just let the R's and D's self destruct. It's time for philosophy over politics.

Philosophy will never stop government without politics. In fact, you can't even educate most people without winning first, because most people aren't rational types. They aren't emotionally ready to even listen until they're humbled by loss and see us as winners. Even if this were not true, the leviathan government will continue to abuse people - no matter how many are educated - as long as it can tax. Agorism can't prevent this, because most consumer goods have to be produced in the open by difficult-to-hide capital goods, fields, and factories. A tax revolt and serious sacrifice isn't going to happen when people aren't even willing to vote third party to deny the establishment their win. An armed revolt is even less likely. Even when the government collapses, people will demand another...so political action will be needed if we want it to be limited rather than unlimited. One way or another liberty rests on political action.

 

[liberty2012]

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[Havax]

So this how liberty dies...to the sound of a shitty live version of "Shout".

 

[unknown]

If you really want to send a message that the people want liberty, vote for Gary Johnson or abstain in protest.

Writing in Ron Paul.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

The numbers are about right. We had 200ish unbound. The rest were bound to Romney and since there's no brokered convention, the extra few hundred still had to vote for Romney on first ballot.

Some abstained.

So how many votes did Paul get? "other got 202, and at least 5 of those are Santorum, and at least 5 for others.

-t

 

[DGambler]

Vote for Obama. Even if it turns your stomach to do so, vote for him. You have to teach these cheating bast*rds a lesson they won't forget

No, I'll write in Ron even though it won't count in my state.

 

[The Goat]

Remember 2008 everyone, this is progress. Even if it doesn't feel that way.

 

[Dublin4Paul]

So this how liberty dies...to the sound of a shitty live version of "Shout".

I laughed at this louder than I should have considering how serious the situation is, but..couldn't help it.

 

[mport1]

When Boehner asked if one of the states wants to change their votes or has not voted, someone yelled MAINE!

Yeah, I heard that too.

 

[Bruno]

Remember 2008 everyone, this is progress. Even if it doesn't feel that way.

Thank you

 

[NoOneButPaul]

wow "Shout".... how awful.

The song white people stole being sung by a bunch of neocons who stole this election.

It's all fitting.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

we can shout all we want in FEMA camps or when we lose everything

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Mitt happens

lol

-t

 

[Mister Grieves]

Any thought I had of voting for Romney as an anti-Obama vote in November just got purged from me today.

 

[Q11Q]

With all the cheating we've seen I'm actually pretty surprised we're averaging even 10% of the delegates.

10% represents at least a million Ron Paul voters who will refuse to vote for Romney now.

 

[Tiso0770]

Is it time for GJ now?.

 

[Acala]

Remember 2008 everyone, this is progress. Even if it doesn't feel that way.

Exactly

 

[kahless]

I laughed at this louder than I should have considering how serious the situation is, but..couldn't help it.

Same here.

 

[cavalier973]

Thanks everyone for the updates. It was very entertaining, even though the GOP perfidy is unquestionably heartbreaking.

 

[devil21]

I think those 2 girls are smoking. I also think I am done with politics, again. You can't win with a stacked deck.

Turn your attention to local races and offices! We have to take this over from the ground up, same way this movement has been built over the last 5 years (and longer). We tried to win by going after the HIGHEST office in the land and that's a hell of a mountain to climb. We did well, better than anyone expected, but it's not how you win the long term. Run for local office, support local, state and congressional candidates, take the party over from the inside. Giving up doesn't do anything for anyone and certainly doesn't spread the message of liberty.