Official Trump EO Thread- Gulf of America

EXCLUSIVE: President-elect Trump will sign more than 200 executive actions on Inauguration Day--a massive, first wave of policy priorities focused on border security, energy, reducing the cost of living for American families, ending DEI programs across the federal government, and more, Fox News Digital has learned.

A senior administration official who is familiar with the executive actions and authorized to brief Fox News Digital said Trump on day one will end "Catch and Release;" pause all offshore wind leases; terminate the electric vehicle mandate; abolish the Green New Deal; withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord; and take several major steps to assert presidential control over the federal bureaucracy.

The official said Donald Trump will sign multiple "omnibus" executive orders that each contain dozens of major executive actions.

"The president is issuing a historic series of executive orders and actions that will fundamentally reform the American government, including the complete and total restoration of American sovereignty," the official told Fox News Digital.

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It's not meaningless in the fact that it's a complete waste of time and effort and has no significance at all, which is why it's annoying. How about other things that matter a lot more than what we call a body of water (which has had that name for hundreds of years). I really don't care what it's called, Gulf of Taint for all I care, but the whole thing is just petty showmanship... think Idiocracy.

Agree that it is nothing other than a troll. Will all of the woke leftists who renamed dozens of things in the past 4 years suddenly decide that renaming old things is not such a good idea? I doubt it. Rational thought, awareness of inconsistencies are not part of their lived experience.

I am conservative in that there needs to be a valid justification to rename, destroy or otherwise alter the past.

I am libertarian in asking what will this cost? Think about it. How many maps, documents, regulations, laws and signs will need to be changed?

There is no justification for the change, and there is no justification for the costs.
 
Agree that it is nothing other than a troll. Will all of the woke leftists who renamed dozens of things in the past 4 years suddenly decide that renaming old things is not such a good idea? I doubt it. Rational thought, awareness of inconsistencies are not part of their lived experience.

I am conservative in that there needs to be a valid justification to rename, destroy or otherwise alter the past.

I am libertarian in asking what will this cost? Think about it. How many maps, documents, regulations, laws and signs will need to be changed?

There is no justification for the change, and there is no justification for the costs.

It's entertaining. Money has been wasted on far worse things. I honestly like the new name.
 
Agree that it is nothing other than a troll. Will all of the woke leftists who renamed dozens of things in the past 4 years suddenly decide that renaming old things is not such a good idea? I doubt it. Rational thought, awareness of inconsistencies are not part of their lived experience.
If anything it will just cause the next clown in that seat to reverse it back.


And then every 4 or 8 years we will have to rename everything.*facepalm*



I am libertarian in asking what will this cost? Think about it. How many maps, documents, regulations, laws and signs will need to be changed?

There is no justification for the change, and there is no justification for the costs.
Yep. As a commercial pilot there are THOUSANDS of official charts and documents referring to the navigation procedures in the Gulf of Mexico... https://www.faa.gov/headquartersoffices/avs/wat-gomex-and-caribbean-resource-guide

Renaming it will absolutely cause confusion and divert attention from other more important things.
 
I get that the Gulf of America thing is just a troll move done for the reaction.

But aside from that, is there anything behind it? Anything at all? Even some small point that could in some small segment of the population make a difference to anybody, where there's a sliver of a reason to think that the Gulf of Mexico ought to be called the Gulf of America, so that somebody somewhere honestly considers this an improvement?
 
If anything it will just cause the next clown in that seat to reverse it back.


And then every 4 or 8 years we will have to rename everything.*facepalm*



Yep. As a commercial pilot there are THOUSANDS of official charts and documents referring to the navigation procedures in the Gulf of Mexico... https://www.faa.gov/headquartersoffices/avs/wat-gomex-and-caribbean-resource-guide

Renaming it will absolutely cause confusion and divert attention from other more important things.
Maybe Congress can legislate that long standing names and statues cannot be renamed or removed without getting authorization. Put them on a list, and review every 4 years or something like that.
 
I get that the Gulf of America thing is just a troll move done for the reaction.

But aside from that, is there anything behind it? Anything at all? Even some small point that could in some small segment of the population make a difference to anybody, where there's a sliver of a reason to think that the Gulf of Mexico ought to be called the Gulf of America, so that somebody somewhere honestly considers this an improvement?
Sometimes a name is more than a name. There might be an underlying strategy that has not fully been revealed.
 
I get that the Gulf of America thing is just a troll move done for the reaction.

But aside from that, is there anything behind it? Anything at all? Even some small point that could in some small segment of the population make a difference to anybody, where there's a sliver of a reason to think that the Gulf of Mexico ought to be called the Gulf of America, so that somebody somewhere honestly considers this an improvement?

This way we can have a shorter wall as we will share less border with Mexico :up:
 
There's a body of water in the Middle East. To the east it borders Iran (where it's called the Persian Gulf). To the west it borders Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, and Oman (where it's called the Arabian Gulf). So what's the big deal with Gulf of Hurricanes?
 
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"The president is issuing a historic series of executive orders and actions that will fundamentally reform the American government [...]," the official told Fox News Digital.

No, they won't. There is nothing "fundamental" about any of this. As agreeable as they might sometimes be, things like executive orders are as ephemeral and transient as the next administration, which can reverse or undo them with executive orders of it's own.

Case in point:

All the whip-wielding regulators and rule-makers will get a "do over" once Trump is no longer the chief overseer of the Executive plantation.

Trump hasn't done anything to address the root of the problem (which is overweening government authority over ... well, pretty much everything).

He probably couldn't succeed even if he tried. No one could. Some things just get broken beyond any possibility of repair.

So enjoy it while you can. It's not going to last.

I'd be happy just with something that signified or embodied some kind of change for the better that is substantive rather than ephemeral. Sadly, Trump's various deregulations, as nice as they might be, are of the latter kind, not the former.

Punch bowl, meet turd. Turd, punch bowl ... ;)

(And as for the whole car thing - the subject of the thread OP - well, we all know how that's been going ...)

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Nothing is going to change "fundamentally" unless and until a significant range of the powers the federal government are permanently removed, with the remainder being sharply curtailed. No amount of mere "executive orders" or the like is ever going to accomplish that.
 
Why are Executive Orders Done?
It seems to me that Executive Orders try to utilize ambiguities in current legislation.

The root of the problem is a Bill that could be 10 pages long and very clearly understood is thousands of pages and compiles things nothing to do with the bill.

Hopefully Democrats will be screaming for a Single Bill Measure and Time to Read Mandate.
 
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