Official Thread - Senate Vote on Audit the Fed 1/12/16

[GunnyFreedom]

Why was cloture invoked, don't u only need 51 to pass?

Cloture requires 67 votes, and disallows a filibuster. The Senate hasn't been doing anything for the last several years without a filibuster proof majority, so nowadays if you want something to pass the Senate you will need 67 votes.

 

[tsai3904]

Why was cloture invoked, don't u only need 51 to pass?

Cloture was not invoked because it requires 60 votes.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Cloture was not invoked because it requires 60 votes.

Oh, they changed it. :-/

Teh Wiki:

The new version of the cloture rule requiring three-fifths (60%) rather than two-thirds (66.7%) approval, which has remained in place since 1975, makes it considerably easier for the Senate majority to invoke cloture. Even so, a successful cloture motion is uncommon.

 

[phill4paul]

Cloture requires 67 votes, and disallows a filibuster. The Senate hasn't been doing anything for the last several years without a filibuster proof majority, so nowadays if you want something to pass the Senate you will need 67 votes.

Oh, they changed it. :-/

Teh Wiki:

The new version of the cloture rule requiring three-fifths (60%) rather than two-thirds (66.7%) approval, which has remained in place since 1975, makes it considerably easier for the Senate majority to invoke cloture. Even so, a successful cloture motion is uncommon.

No better way to insure the status quo.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[timosman]

Fauxcahontas Elizabeth Warren who is "for the people" of course voted no. LOL

She will take care of the too big too fail banks except for the biggest one of them

 

[dillo]

Cloture requires 67 votes, and disallows a filibuster. The Senate hasn't been doing anything for the last several years without a filibuster proof majority, so nowadays if you want something to pass the Senate you will need 67 votes.

So was the bill fillibustered then?

Isnt a normal vote 51-49 pass? But you can debate endlessly and fillibuster unless the senate invokes cloture?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

So was the bill fillibustered then?

Isnt a normal vote 51-49 pass? But you can debate endlessly and fillibuster unless the senate invokes cloture?

It wasn't the classic standing-on-the-floor-for-hours-talking filibuster, but in effect, yes.

No cloture, no vote on the bill.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

So was the bill fillibustered then?

Never made it to that point.

Isnt a normal vote 51-49 pass? But you can debate endlessly and fillibuster unless the senate invokes cloture?

Yes, a simple majority is a pass, but most bills in the Senate no longer go to an up or down vote anymore without cloture.

It's insanity, but that's how they do.

 

[timosman]

Sanders voted yes.

Wasn't he the last senator to vote? The outcome of the vote is known and he shows gracefully his support knowing it is safe to do so?

 

[tsai3904]

Wasn't he the last senator to vote? The outcome of the vote is known and he shows gracefully his support knowing it is safe to do so?

Yes, he was. I read reports that they kept the vote open for him because he was arriving late. It makes sense for Republicans to hold it open for a Democratic vote to make it bipartisan.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Sanders voting yes on this seals the deal for me, I would rather have Sanders than Hillary in 2016

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Sanders voting yes on this seals the deal for me, I would rather have Sanders than Hillary in 2016

You know that his objection to the Fed is that it's monetary policy is too tight?

 

[timosman]

Sanders voting yes on this seals the deal for me, I would rather have Sanders than Hillary in 2016

His vote did not matter. Why are you falling for this?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Perhaps Rand didn't want any Amendments to be attached, so he went for Cloture.?

 

[TheNewYorker]

His vote did not matter. Why are you falling for this?

Rand asked Bernie to vote yes, and he voted yes. This shows that Bernie must have some respect for Rand, even though they are worlds apart on policy

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Rand asked Bernie to vote yes, and he voted yes. This shows that Bernie must have some respect for Rand, even though they are worlds apart on policy

I think he did it to boost his populist, "progressive" credentials.

For Dems it's about eat the rich (bankers); they don't see the issue as we do.

 

[tsai3904]

Perhaps Rand didn't want any Amendments to be attached, so he went for Cloture.?

The Democrats filibustered the bill requiring Republicans to invoke cloture if they want to proceed.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Rand asked Bernie to vote yes, and he voted yes. This shows that Bernie must have some respect for Rand, even though they are worlds apart on policy

Bernie is not partisan, he just has wonky ideas all the time.

 

[timosman]

Rand asked Bernie to vote yes, and he voted yes. This shows that Bernie must have some respect for Rand, even though they are worlds apart on policy

Do you think he would cast the yes vote if it was the deciding vote??? Why was he dragging his feet for so long? His yes vote might have influenced other dems if casted earlier.