Official RNC Roll Call Thread

[ProBlue33]

This is why the GOP must lose in November

You know I have been with this thing since the fall of 2007, and we lost I know, McCain won. But you could at least count all of the few votes Ron Paul did get.
This was about an extra slap in the face to both Ron Paul and all his voters.

Now Ron Paul got over 1 million votes in the primaries, these people have to put there votes somewhere in November.

Here are the points against McCain and the GOP at this RNC

1)No respect for the few legal votes Ron Paul did get.
2)Basically wouldn't allow Ron Paul to the convention with all the restrictions they put on him.

Somebody labelled me an Obama supporter in their signature, I am not really, I am just so angry with the GOP and McCain that he must not win in Nov. AT ANY COST.

Obama can't solve anything, I know that. But McCain is going to be really really really be bad for America. His heavy handed tactics against Ron Paul supporters will be the same ones he uses on the ENTIRE country.

I hear this not voting for the lesser of two evils arguement all the time.
Get this through your heads, ONLY A GOP LOSS WILL CHANGE THE GOP.
If they win they will continue to laugh at this movement as nothing but a lot of hot air. THEY MUST LOSE come November.

 

[MozoVote]

If McCain and his henchmen could not even give any respect to another wing of the GOP, why would they give a damn about the average voter?

I will probably still offer some help to decent local GOP (city/county) candidates this fall. But I will either not vote for prez, or vote Libertarian.

 

[ryanmkeisling]

You know I have been with this thing since the fall of 2007, and we lost I know, McCain won. But you could at least count all of the few votes Ron Paul did get.
This was about an extra slap in the face to both Ron Paul and all his voters.

Now Ron Paul got over 1 million votes in the primaries, these people have to put there votes somewhere in November.

Here are the points against McCain and the GOP at this RNC

1)No respect for the few legal votes Ron Paul did get.
2)Basically wouldn't allow Ron Paul to the convention with all the restrictions they put on him.

Somebody labelled me an Obama supporter in their signature, I am not really, I am just so angry with the GOP and McCain that he must not win in Nov. AT ANY COST.

Obama can't solve anything, I know that. But McCain is going to be really really really be bad for America. His heavy handed tactics against Ron Paul supporters will be the same ones he uses on the ENTIRE country.

I hear this not voting for the lesser of two evils arguement all the time.
Get this through your heads, ONLY A GOP LOSS WILL CHANGE THE GOP.
If they win they will continue to laugh at this movement as nothing but a lot of hot air. THEY MUST LOSE come November.

I say do what you will. It does not matter if McCain or Obama becomes president. I am in disbelief that anyone here expected anything different. The party in power does not matter much at this point, is it not totally obvious? Has Ron Paul not been saying this for some time now?

The government will continue to grow:
nation building will continue,
deficit spending will continue,
foreign entitlements will continue to increase,
there will be more wars and entanglements,
the war on drugs will continue,
the IRS will continue to rob you, your family and your descendants,
legislation will continue to erode your rights,
etc, etc, etc.

Ron Paul said in his rally speech that this "thing" hangs by a thread and also that it will take a long time to reverse the trends, as Bruce Fein pointed out so eloquently, that are politically and intellectually entrenched in american society. Each day is a new step and if we can all direct our negative feelings into a positive approach towards the common goal of spreading the message to anyone and everyone who will listen, and electing liberty minded candidates into office it can grow by leaps and bounds. Just like the Dr. said, he is amazed at how many of us already existed when he decided to run for President and this gave him hope. The status quo is and should be very afraid. If we refuse to never give up pretty soon there will be Ron Paul's everywhere: in the neighborhoods, in the media, in the congress and hopefully one day in the white house but it will not be this year and I do not think it will be during the next election cycle. This is exactly how the neocons did it, with strong influence in both parties, patience and focus. They may not be exactly the same but the end result in both cases only yields trivial differences IMHO. Agenda and influence.

It is obvious the GOP is scared shitless, so are the Democrats to a point, this campaign rocked the establishment, and I believe I heard one of the speakers at the rally point out that it is the first step at disenfranchising the status quo, piece by piece and this is where real change will happen. As the country spirals into disaster these ideas will make more and more sense to more and more people. Am I the only one that was sitting back having a drink while they scurried around trying to bury the truth out of fear for the very principles they just shit all over?

They are clueless, and crippled. This is why they must result to cheating, lying and manipulation. This is all they know how to do and have ever done, only now in their fear they make it more and more obvious. Our job is to never loose momentum and never stop growing in numbers. This is the thread that liberty hangs by, IMHO.

Look at the national approval ratings for both the executive and legislative branches?
Look at the economy? Look at the popularity of their needless, unsubstantiated, and unconstitutional wars? The new figurehead Barak Obama can never deliver a more prosperous nation or any kind of real change. The only question is can the media and institutions continue to cheat, lie, and manipulate social reality? It is becoming clear they cannot with the seed of liberty growing. We must certainly feed and water it now that it has finally broken ground. No vote will change the direction of the next four years and that was decided long ago. Influence and agenda...

 

[porcupine]

Does anyone know the name of the person who made the motion for a unanimous support of McCain at the very end? Whoever it is should get smacked down.

"Smacked down?" What good are a bunch of silly e-mails going to do? It's over. Try to focus your anger on something useful.

 

[AgentOrange]

The current GOP establishment wants us all to run away and give up.

We need to stay and fight. Look how much has been done in 1 year...in 4 years time it will be even better. We must stay involved at the local level and work on getting candidates passed at the local and state level. This is the only way to grow.

 

[Ron Paul Vermont]

honestly I knew McCain was going to get the nomination tonight. The fact though that the GOP outright denied the support of a candidate that brought in tons of new republicans this past 2 years just blew me away. I did not have a false hope of a miracle, I just wanted a honest count.

It does not matter to them if they ignore the new republicans. With the way they were counting tonight Osama Bin Laden could have won the election on the republican ticket.

 

[Conza88]

chair: Are there any other nominations?
somewhere in the crowd: RON PAAAAULLLLL!

did yall hear it?

Ok, is there a youtube of this? I need it for my video... that pretty much speaks corruption, BULLSHIT all over..

I just saw this; and going through 41 pages of hurt is not fun.

Anyone help me out?

 

[txrep]

Someone could have also shouted "Mickey Mouse" but they dont have to put it into nomination... That person could have also been someone in the general audience... only delegates can nominate. If a candidate does not win the required amount of states then they are not eligible to be put into nomination. So basically Ron Paul was not even eligible to be nominated. Same goes for someone like Duncan Hunter or Chris Dodd/John Edwards for the Dems. If anyone is pledged to them, they automatically become released without the candidate doing so...(for example at the DNC, any Edwards delegates were automatically released once the roll call began)…In this case Ron Paul’s delegates were not truly “pledged” because his name was not place into nomination because his name was ineligible to be placed into nomination.

 

[Bruno]

Someone could have also shouted "Mickey Mouse" but they dont have to put it into nomination... That person could have also been someone in the general audience... only delegates can nominate. If a candidate does not win the required amount of states then they are not eligible to be put into nomination. So basically Ron Paul was not even eligible to be nominated. Same goes for someone like Duncan Hunter or Chris Dodd/John Edwards for the Dems. If anyone is pledged to them, they automatically become released without the candidate doing so...(for example at the DNC, any Edwards delegates were automatically released once the roll call began)…In this case Ron Paul’s delegates were not truly “pledged” because his name was not place into nomination because his name was ineligible to be placed into nomination.

Then let's save $16 or so million dollars next time since the state's wishes were ignored anyway. Just a bunch of pomp and circumstance.

 

[thx1149]

Questions

I have added in a thread in the GOP Convention forum to discuss many of the questions we all have over what happened. If anyone knows or has ideas about the answers please post over there.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=153426

 

[-lotus-]

The only good thing about this whole fiasco is that while the neocons are busy celebrating their warchief's win, we now have a clear goal in that from this moment, we have 4 years to prepare. Eveything we did during the course of this election, some of those things being done without proper understanding or without proper strength in numbers, can now be prepared for accordingly. Find out about the delegate process and become ready to lead. Start righting speeches, blogs, precint maps/lists. Get all your contact lists updated and start meetup groups. Look up local public office positions and begin a campaign. We have not yet begun to fight and I for one have already looked past this stolen election and am hungrily awaiting the next chance we'll have to regain control of our country. We need to use every resource at our disposal to inform as many people as possible, and not just inform them but to keep them informed as well. Im talking newletters, more social network sites that will enable people all over the country to seek out and band together with other like minded people/organizations. We need people to write books and go out and talk to the general public about issues important in your part of the community and how we can deal with them without relying on big brother government to fix everything. Am I mad about what happened today? You bet your ass. Am I going to sit here and bitch and cry and scream 'We need to sue XXXX or XXXX!' and point blame? NO!! I am going to redouble my efforts and pledge that in 2012 we will see freedom, liberty and peace restored to our lives and to our country.