Official New Ron Paul Ad: Etch A Sketch

- he's winning the hearts and minds of the 'smart money' in the GOP (re: those backing Romney) who now see Ron in much the same way we do. Do they agree with his anti-war message? No. But they sure as shit respect the hell out of him for his integrity and his unwillingness to use gaffes, class warfare or religion as clubs to beat his fellow candidates with.

I agree with your post, except I'm not so sure there are many like this left in the GOP.

I could be wrong, but if there were I'd expect them to at least be donating more to Ron Paul's campaign.
 
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Some people want to find proof of a Paul/Romney alliance so badly they see one behind every shrub.
Sounds like CSMonitor was thinking critically:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electi...ch-A-Sketch-games.-Does-he-have-a-point-video

The overall effect is to repeat the original charge – that Mr. Romney’s positions are erasablewhile simultaneously belittling the political focus on playthings and framing Representative Paul as the responsible adult in the GOP hopeful room. Clever! We’ve said it before: Paul may be losing, but he’s got the best ad people in the race.
 
The ad shows the other candidates playing with toys interspersed with real problems (unemployment, debt) and pictures of real Americans suffering, then it ends with 'Ron Paul has a Serious Plan'.

It's not just attacking Romney, it's attacking all the candidates and pundits who just want to talk about toys while this country falls apart.

There's a reason Ron Paul isn't in it - he doesn't discuss toys, he discusses issues.

I think you just nailed it.
 
I agree with your post, except I'm not so sure there are many like this left in the GOP.

I could be wrong, but if there were I'd expect them to at least be donating more to Ron Paul's campaign.

Thanks WilliamC - it's nice to know I'm not the only Ron Paul supporter who is focused on making the most out of the reality of our present position. There's more of us than there are barking "absolutist" and "hypocrites" within RPF**.

re: 'smart money' - In terms of winning new voters in the upcoming states, I'd say you're probably right...though Romney's supporters are a pretty large group and I think that even the intelligent/honest/apolitical supporters of Santorum and Newt respect the fact that Ron always wants to keep the conversation focused on real issues.

But going one step beyond popular votes, I think the big deal here is that this ad has given Ron another feather in his cap and card to play come convention. Make no mistake about it folks, little by little, these 'integrity+issues first' stances by Ron are adding up... and while ads like this might not be enough to win back the support of the Hoi polloi, I'm certain that the real power brokers and insiders within the GOP not only notice these ads/statements by Ron but are seriously impressed by the level of discipline he has shown when presented with opportunities to take a cheap shot at Romney (and other candidates). The anti-theocon wing of the GOP (re: Jack Welch, Ed Rollins, etc.) respects Ron now, and ads like this will only help some of the early "converts" sell Ron as an "elder statesman" to the rest of the party.

In other words, this ad is as much for party leaders/power-brokers/Romney-endorsers/etc. as it is for voters... it's strategically brilliant and makes me think that Ron can actually win over enough of them to be considered seriously for a "non-insignificant" position within Romney's general election team & administration.

But why care what these people think?? Simple... even if Romney wanted to do a deal with Ron for his (and our) support, if the GOP elites were against it, there would be no deal. That's why moves like this = genius because they not only strengthen Ron's hand with Romney, but also make it easier for Romney and early adopters of Ron (re: Welch, Rollins, etc.) to sell a deal to all the other GOP power brokers (who continue to warm up to Ron as the campaign goes on).

**Of course, all the absolutist "ATTACK ROMNEY WAHHH!1!!" posters in RPF hate this ad because they don't actually want Ron to win any REAL power/support. What they want is to forever be able to complain about Big Government without ever having to enter the arena themselves (or via a proxy like Ron Paul). This makes them self-defeating absolutists. That's fine... as long as such supporters maintain the integrity of their 'all or nothing' position. But what's not fine is that many of these very same absolutist supporters are now, in this very thread, yelling about how 'Ron should've attack Romney over the etch-a-sketch gaffe, not Santorum or Gingrich for playing politics over such a bullshit issue!'.

Sorry Maltheus (and everyone else in the all-or-nothing camp), but you can't piss and moan about Ron doing a standup/issues+integrity-first ad after arguing in every single Ron-Romney-alliance thread that any 'deal' with Romney = "selling out".

That's a tad hypocritical dontcha know?

The way I see it, you've only got 2 choices (which should make you absolutist happy):

  • either stick to the "moral high-ground" in response to ALL ACTIONS/DECISIONS BY RON
or

  • come down from out of the clouds to muck it up in the dirt with all of us "realists"....

The Man in the Arena
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
 
Great idea, but........................ Santorum and Gingrich are shown delivering the message.

Paul appears nowhere, beyond his name in text at the end of the ad.

Ummmm.....yeah. I consider myself a bit of a political wonk and the whole "etch-a-sketch" reference lost me. If someone has to use Google to understand what your ad is talking about, is it an effective ad?

Edit: I just found out that Santorum and Gingrich were slamming Romney over the "etch-a-sketch" comment. And the campaign turns this primarily into an ad against Santorum and Gingrich? :confused: Here come the "they're working together again" claims. :rolleyes:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politic...-sketch-obama-romney-20120322,0,1519900.story
 
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all of a sudden people are talking about and holding up etch-a-sketches
and then the ad slams one into our big whopping debt and a big figure...
 
Where it going to be run? Again the ad is only relevant for a week...they should hit the air NOW in LA or CA or something....
 
Where it going to be run? Again the ad is only relevant for a week...they should hit the air NOW in LA or CA or something....

Yea, this ad will be old news by April. He needs to work on a new ad that shows he is the most electable based on facts.
 

+rep for the post,

Now I wonder if all the "Paul has to attack Romney" people will be satisfied or if it'll just become "yeah but this ad is under a minute, and Three of a Kind goes after all of them, so it's all too little too late, Willard/Rand 2012!!!" :rolleyes:
 
This just proves the campaign refuses to call out Romney in one ad. This is seemingly mor of an anti-Newton and anti-Santorum ad. Big miss indeed.

Really a terrible ad. It fails to communicate any coherent message and has nothing at all to do with Ron Paul except his name appearing at the end.

Okay. Someone please tell me the above members didn't get banned just for being highly critical of this ad. If that's true then go ahead and ban me already. Seriously.
 
+rep for the post,

Now I wonder if all the "Paul has to attack Romney" people will be satisfied or if it'll just become "yeah but this ad is under a minute, and Three of a Kind goes after all of them, so it's all too little too late, Willard/Rand 2012!!!" :rolleyes:

Ummm....how is an add attacking others for attacking Romney an attack on Romney? :confused:
 
Ummm....how is an add attacking others for attacking Romney an attack on Romney? :confused:
Just like the report pointed out:

The overall effect is to repeat the original charge – that Mr. Romney’s positions are erasablewhile simultaneously belittling the political focus on playthings and framing Representative Paul as the responsible adult in the GOP hopeful room. Clever! We’ve said it before: Paul may be losing, but he’s got the best ad people in the race.
 
This is the kind of crap you get when your ad guy is married to a Romney staffer. :( :mad:
 
people--- barack obama's people are buying up etch-a-sketches to the degree that the company
doubled the retail price so as to keep some of 'em on store shelves for their true customers. this
also plays into the groundgame barack obama has for this fall. y'all thought superbrochures were
an expensive way to make a political statement? Democrats are handing out etch-a-sketches!!!
 
Ummm....how is an add attacking others for attacking Romney an attack on Romney? :confused:

Just like the report pointed out:

The overall effect is to repeat the original charge – that Mr. Romney’s positions are erasablewhile simultaneously belittling the political focus on playthings and framing Representative Paul as the responsible adult in the GOP hopeful room. Clever! We’ve said it before: Paul may be losing, but he’s got the best ad people in the race.

^^I'll go with this. It's for more constrictive than the response I first had which was more worthy of one of the "condescending Wonka" memes :o

You don't like the ad that's fine, you'd like to present come detailed constructive criticisms even better, you'd like to actually do something about it and make a better one yourself? H@ll at that point link me and I'll spread it around for you. But please spare us more of the "attacks on Romney aren't 'attack-y' enough" one liners. They serve no constructive purpose.
 
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