**OFFICIAL 2015 NFL SEASON THREAD**

Very disappointed in the panthers implosion. Was a great season so sad I see it end like this.
 
I figured the game was over. My wife and I were having some time alone and we heard fireworks go off. I tried to joke about what the explosions were about...


The older I get, the more I dislike watching sports. Why watch a bunch of grown men make a million dollars playing a kids game?
 
CBS: "Ron Rivera, the Panthers offense struggled at the end of the half. What do you intend to do to improve after halftime?"

Rivera: "Well I think we need to start by dispelling this fiction once and for all that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing."

 
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While you kids are being distracted by the football games, Obama is passing a tax on oil. He says now is a good time, while the gas at the pump is cheaper, to add a $.25 to $.40 per gallon tax. Maybe it's time to wake up, and understand sports may be an intentional diversion.
 
Dianne said:
While you kids are being distracted by the football games, Obama is passing a tax on oil. He says now is a good time, while the gas at the pump is cheaper, to add a $.25 to $.40 per gallon tax. Maybe it's time to wake up, and understand sports may be an intentional diversion.
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Some of us can chew gum and walk at the same time.
 
Dianne said:
While you kids are being distracted by the football games, Obama is passing a tax on oil. He says now is a good time, while the gas at the pump is cheaper, to add a $.25 to $.40 per gallon tax. Maybe it's time to wake up, and understand sports may be an intentional diversion.
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http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/02/obama-oil-tax-budget-000038
Those near-term prospects are basically nil; Obama’s entire budget request is expected to be dead on arrival on GOP-controlled Capitol Hill.
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Full circle. In Super Bowl XXII, John Elway beat Bret Favre and the Packers to win the Super Bowl. At the awards presentation, owner Pat Bowlen said "this one's for John". After the Broncos won today, Elway repaid the favor- "This one's for Pat!". Elway was the oldest QB to both play in and to win a Super Bowl. Until this year. His back-up QB? Gary Kubiak. Now Elway is management and Kubiak coach. Elway is the only Hall of Fame QB to go out a winner. Until (possibly) this season. Elway promised to do the same for another QB- Peyton Manning. Manning also beat Favre today- most career victories with 200. Kubiak became the first to play on and coach for the same team to win the Super Bowl. Terrell Davis- Elway's running back and MVP was waiting to be the first in the "VIP Super Bowl Trophy" relay to bring the silver Tiffany football up to the stage to be presented.

Elway promised if Manning came to Denver he would do his best to let him go out a winner as well- and today it happened. But unlike Elway's win, this one wasn't really due to the quarterback. Manning didn't lead the team to a touchdown until the game was pretty much decided. Instead it was defense. This team was built for D and the ability to win no matter who was QB. Defense wins championships they say and this game had the #1 and #2 defense playing each other- one was going to prevail. The #1 seed from each conference. It had a #1 draft pick (Cam Newton) playing the #2 pick in the same draft- Vaughn Miller. And the #1 offense. In the end, it was defense. Newton was hounded and looked slumped- tired, frustrated?- heading into the locker room at the half. They only scored one touchdown the entire game. Held to ten points- their lowest output of the season. They had led in turnover ratio all season but lost three fumbles (one resulting in a touchdown), had an interception, and missed a field goal while giving up seven sacks. Meanwhile Denver set a record for failed consecutive third down conversions.

Elway and Manning are champions- once again. They should enjoy their time. Carolina should be proud too- they lost but have shown they too are among the best and Newton will likely make a return to the Championship again. But as many who have been there can tell you- getting there is hard. Really hard. And winning it is even harder. Newton and Carolina are leaders of the Next Generation. For now. Ask the Seahawks and Patriots about how hard staying on top is. There is always some new kid coming along to try to knock your block off.

Also of note- Manning has been to the Super Bowl four times. Each time has been under a different coach.
 
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Anyway, contempt for Panthers aside, I'm happy for Payton.

...way to go out on a high note.

...maybe, but I hope not, one of the last real QBs, as opposed to these perverse QB/RB combos that are so popular these days.
 
Running back QBs won't have staying power- they get hit too many times which adds up and shortens careers. Just like powerful running backs who like to run over everybody. They only last about three years or so. Nice to have on your side but you need to replace them often.
 
Cam Newton was most likely playing with a left shoulder injury from the 3rd quarter onward. I don't know how much that affected his game, but he was keeping his arm down motionless a lot between plays.
 
That was probably the most times he was knocked down in a game. Denver really put a lot of pressure on him. He also had a lot of passes dropped on him.

Now the hard part for the front office. MVP Vaughn Miller is a free agent. Do you give him a franchise tag or do you give it to who might be your starting QB if Manning decides to call it quits (Brock Osweiler)? His contract is up too. Osweiler's QB rating was #24 in the league.

After the end of last season, Peyton Manning agreed to a $4 million pay cut (he was due $16 million this year) to give Denver room under the salary cap to sign other players. But that new contract included bonuses which did not count against that cap. One was $2 million for the AFC title. Check. Another $2 million for winning the Super Bowl. Check. I guess his pay wasn't cut afterall.

Wade Phillips (Denver Defensive Coordinator) is really their MVP. Two years ago he was unemployed. Twelve other defensive coordinators got jobs before he landed at Denver. Of course having somebody like Miller can make a lot of coaches look good.
 
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