Officer threatens arrest after my friend files complaint

[Matt Collins]

This happened to a friend of mine in Nashville a couple of days ago!

The officer didn't know the law, my friend did and was correct while the officer was incorrect. This officer is in line to become the next police chief.

The incident got a writeup in the local paper:

http://www.tennessean.com/article/2...n-files-complaint-?odyssey=mod_sectionstories

HERE IS THE VIDEO OF THE INCIDENT:

Notice how the cop report comes back and says that he has a suspended gun permit. Well there is a story to that too. This man is a freedom fighter!!! Just Google for his name "Leonard Embody" to see the whole story.
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[aGameOfThrones]

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, officer.

 

[BamaAla]

This is the mentality of most of the police officers I have ever known or come into contact with. Strope should be fired on the spot for the comment he made, but I'm sure that will never happen.

 

[Matt Collins]

Google for Leonard Embody's name sometime and you'll see a lot more than this. He is someone who I consider a hero and an intellectual heavyweight in the liberty movement. He knows the law better than most of the people who write it, enforce it, or judge it.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

When Cop's get paid regardless of their actions, you think they are going to care about 'customer service'? No. You could obviously tell the Police Officer was a power tripping narcissist. How much you want to bet that would have never occured had the security personnel been voluntary funded.

Capitalism is Life lecture by Jeffrey Tucker clearly encapsulates the difference between the State and the Market.

 

[Razmear]

I'm pretty sure your friend is incorrect in this case. The intersection is not a 4 way, but a T, so only the traffic approaching from the intersecting road needs to treat the non functioning light as a stop while the thru street would treat the light as a yellow or caution.

 

[Indy Vidual]

Google for Leonard Embody's name sometime and you'll see a lot more than this. He is someone who I consider a hero and an intellectual heavyweight in the liberty movement. He knows the law better than most of the people who write it, enforce it, or judge it.

As you requested, here are some results from Google:

• Leonard Embody—a.k.a. the Radnor Lake Rambo...

John Pierce from OpenCarry.org re: Your friend:

John Pierce is a co-founder of OpenCarry.org, a group that seeks to normalize openly carrying "properly holstered handguns."

"On a fundamental level, I don't think he did anything wrong," Pierce said of Embody, "but politically that might not be best thing to do, and it's not something we're advocating for."

Armed man startles Radnor Lake State Park hikers

...Fifth, Leonard probably could have saved himself a world of figurative hurt if he had simply had a better grasp of how to make his point...

~Source

Matt, I'm open minded, but even The Gun nuts seem to think your friend is (was) way out of line.

 

[BamaAla]

Matt, I'm open minded, but even The Gun nuts seem to think your friend is (was) way out of line.

Gun nut here and I tend to agree with the others. The Kalashnikov short gun is silly.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I like this fellow. Fuck the PC douches -- they sound like NRAWOL.

 

[Indy Vidual]

Gun nut here and I tend to agree with the others. The Kalashnikov short gun is silly.

I like this fellow. Fuck the PC douches -- they sound like NRAWOL.

The sources I posted are strongly pro 2nd amendment, can you imagine what anti-gun people think of this guy?

...Fuck the PC douches...

Hey, that helps a bunch, "F^ck the PC douches":
Is that the way to actually win long-term, or to remain a Disciple of an obscure Austrian writer?

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

The sources I posted are strongly pro 2nd amendment, can you imagine what anti-gun people think of this guy?



Hey, that helps a bunch, "F^ck the PC douches":
Is that the way to actually win long-term, or to remain a Disciple of an obscure Austrian writer?

I support all open-carry efforts. I support those who go out and open carry a .50 Barret. I support and do not derisively deride or chastise my fellow open-carry supporters. If that is your definition of 'victory', it is a shallow one indeed. I am not saying it is the most effective, but to hear your supposed allies go out of their way to attack the guy, it reminds me of the sham that is the NRA.

PS: I personally do not care what anti-gun people think of the guy. Nor, do I care what they think about my natural right to own a gun and carry it. Furthermore, I doubt these guys are as supportive of that right as they put on. I do not know of many movements to nullify the 34, 68, and 86 gun laws and I am going to be pushing for that more and more in the coming years in any and all avenues (if that means lawsuits go for it...which these people seem to attack Lambody for).

 

[Texan4Life]

LMAO.. isn't the cop car half way in the outer lane "impeding traffic"?

 

[Indy Vidual]

...Nor, do I care what they think about my natural right to own a gun and carry it....

Perfectly fine, so far.
If you care about spreading your ideas to others, then "F^ck the PC douches" might not be the best approach, IMO.

Also, this doesn't imply you 'have to be' PC yourself. There are many non-PC phrases which are better than "F^ck the PC douches".

 

[cornbread]

they think,because they have a badge,that means they make up the laws as they go,an most of the time they have the judge in there back pocket,i no,because of the shit i am going through,i think im going to have to go public with my case to make them understand,that i do have rights,and im not going to be walked over,just got to find the right people to put it out there.someone with some back bone thats going to look at the case from top to bottom

 

[BamaAla]

Perfectly fine, so far.
If you care about spreading your ideas to others, then "F^ck the PC douches" might not be the best approach, IMO.

Also, this doesn't imply you 'have to be' PC yourself. There are many non-PC phrases which are better than "F^ck the PC douches".

Think you might have messed up on the quote function.

 

[Indy Vidual]

Think you might have messed up on the quote function.

You are correct I fixed it, sorry. :o

 

[liberalrepublican]

LMAO.. isn't the cop car half way in the outer lane "impeding traffic"?

Cops are above the law because they say so. You must obey. You must cooperate.

 

[YumYum]

What is the issue here? I couldn't understand what the policeman was saying.

 

[123tim]

What is the issue here? I couldn't understand what the policeman was saying.

I believe that the policeman was telling the driver that he was breaking the law by stopping at a non-functioning light. He was telling the driver that he should have driven straight through. I think that the officer actually gave the ticket because the driver was questioning the logic of the situation.


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Who in their right mind would drive through a traffic light (that wasn't functioning) without first checking to make certain that the way was clear?

I can't believe that any officer would promote this rationale.

 

[Krugerrand]

I'm pretty sure your friend is incorrect in this case. The intersection is not a 4 way, but a T, so only the traffic approaching from the intersecting road needs to treat the non functioning light as a stop while the thru street would treat the light as a yellow or caution.

Tennessee law states, “… any vehicle approaching an intersection that is controlled by a traffic-control signal that is inoperative because of mechanical failure or accident shall come to a full and complete stop …”

Laws like these probably vary quite a bit by state.

In regard to statements made by Hill and Strope that Embody had talked himself into a citation, Bandy said the officers’ conduct was “unprofessional.”

“Citations are meant to deter unlawful behavior,” he said. “We shouldn’t do it because we get upset with someone’s difference of opinion.

This was not a difference of opinion ... It was unlawful detention, false accusations, and attempted intimidation. Sorry, officer, but ignorance of the law is no excuse .. and not an opinion.