O’Donnell pisses off the wrong contingent...

libertarian4321 said:
If the religious didn't have other religions to hate, what would they do with their time?
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I know, it's sad, but maybe I delude myself by thinking that not all religious people are like this. They really can't all be like this. Oh well, can't force people to like each other..still, sad.
 
libertarian4321 said:
Dude, grow up.

There are no demons, that's just bull shit that certain religions shovel.

Relax, there's nothing hiding in your closet or under your bet that's going to "get you."

BTW, Wiccans (witches) do NOT worship "demons." The concept of Wiccans "worshipping demons" is a Christian one (also applies to other religions, but NOT Wicca).

Christian religious leaders say Wiccans "worship demons" just to whip up fear, hatred, and hysteria since that's what ALL religions seem to do best. BTW, the idea that Wiccans "worship Satan" is also Christian bull shit- they don't even believe in "Satan."

And yes, Wicca is just as absurd and childish as Christianity or any other religion, but no more so...
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If religion is so absurd, why spend so much time talking about how absurd it is? Why does this bother atheists so much? If none of it is real then it's obviously a waste of your time even mentioning it.

If you don't believe any of it, fine....don't. But stop attacking others just because you want everyone to agree with you so you'll feel more confident that there's definitely no god out there. That's all this is.
 
libertarian4321 said:
Dude, grow up.

There are no demons, that's just bull shit that certain religions shovel.

Relax, there's nothing hiding in your closet or under your bet that's going to "get you."

BTW, Wiccans (witches) do NOT worship "demons." The concept of Wiccans "worshipping demons" is a Christian one (also applies to other religions, but NOT Wicca).

Christian religious leaders say Wiccans "worship demons" just to whip up fear, hatred, and hysteria since that's what ALL religions seem to do best. BTW, the idea that Wiccans "worship Satan" is also Christian bull shit- they don't even believe in "Satan."

And yes, Wicca is just as absurd and childish as Christianity or any other religion, but no more so...
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BINGO! - we have a winner!

Demons and Satanism are the invention of Christians to keep their flock in line.

For anyone interested in the subject of Pagans / witchcraft some suggested reading:

Drawing Down the Moon, by Adler
http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Down-Moon-Witches-Goddess-Worshippers/dp/014019536X

Popular demand for this clear-sighted compendium of information about the rebirth of Pagan religions hasn't waned since its initial publication in 1979. Distinguished by the journalism of National Public Radio columnist Margot Adler, Drawing Down the Moon explains this diverse and burgeoning religion's philosophies and activities while dispelling stereotypes that have long been associated with it. Most people don't realize that pagan simply refers to pre-Christian polytheistic nature religions, such as the various Native American creeds, Japanese Shinto, Celtic Druid, and Western European Wicca. Originally, the word pagan meant "country dweller" and was a derogatory term in Rome in the third century A.D., not unlike calling someone a hick today. If you find yourself feeling queasy when you hear the words witch or pagan, a healthy dose of reeducation via Drawing Down the Moon could be the cure. --P. Randall Cohan

The Golden Bough, by Frazer
http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Bough-James-George-Frazer/dp/0684826305
online:
http://www.bartleby.com/196/

Before Joseph Campbell became the world's most famous practitioner of comparative mythology, there was Sir James George Frazer. The Golden Bough was originally published in two volumes in 1890, but Frazer became so enamored of his topic that over the next few decades he expanded the work sixfold, then in 1922 cut it all down to a single thick edition suitable for mass distribution. The thesis on the origins of magic and religion that it elaborates "will be long and laborious," Frazer warns readers, "but may possess something of the charm of a voyage of discovery, in which we shall visit many strange lands, with strange foreign peoples, and still stranger customs." Chief among those customs--at least as the book is remembered in the popular imagination--is the sacrificial killing of god-kings to ensure bountiful harvests, which Frazer traces through several cultures, including in his elaborations the myths of Adonis, Osiris, and Balder.

While highly influential in its day, The Golden Bough has come under harsh critical scrutiny in subsequent decades, with many of its descriptions of regional folklore and legends deemed less than reliable. Furthermore, much of its tone is rooted in a philosophy of social Darwinism--sheer cultural imperialism, really--that finds its most explicit form in Frazer's rhetorical question: "If in the most backward state of human society now known to us we find magic thus conspicuously present and religion conspicuously absent, may we not reasonably conjecture that the civilised races of the world have also at some period of their history passed through a similar intellectual phase?" (The truly civilized races, he goes on to say later, though not particularly loudly, are the ones whose minds evolve beyond religious belief to embrace the rational structures of scientific thought.) Frazer was much too genteel to state plainly that "primitive" races believe in magic because they are too stupid and backwards to know any better; instead he remarks that "a savage hardly conceives the distinction commonly drawn by more advanced peoples between the natural and the supernatural." And he certainly was not about to make explicit the logical extension of his theories--"that Christian legend, dogma, and ritual" (to quote Robert Graves's summation of Frazer in The White Goddess) "are the refinement of a great body of primitive and barbarous beliefs." Whatever modern readers have come to think of the book, however, its historical significance and the eloquence with which Frazer attempts to develop what one might call a unifying theory of anthropology cannot be denied. --Ron Hogan

Never forget that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic!

Now don't forget that OBL is hiding right under your bed! and he's gonna git ya if you are bad!

:rolleyes:

-t
 
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Thanks for that.

I'll sleep better tonight, knowing that you've figured the entire universe of existence out and have all the answers.

Whew, what a relief.

:rolleyes:

libertarian4321 said:
Dude, grow up.

There are no demons, that's just bull shit that certain religions shovel.

Relax, there's nothing hiding in your closet or under your bet that's going to "get you."

BTW, Wiccans (witches) do NOT worship "demons." The concept of Wiccans "worshipping demons" is a Christian one (also applies to other religions, but NOT Wicca).

Christian religious leaders say Wiccans "worship demons" just to whip up fear, hatred, and hysteria since that's what ALL religions seem to do best. BTW, the idea that Wiccans "worship Satan" is also Christian bull shit- they don't even believe in "Satan."

And yes, Wicca is just as absurd and childish as Christianity or any other religion, but no more so...
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“She says, ‘I’m not a witch, I’m you,’ ’’ complained Amy Blackthorn, a 28-year-old Wiccan from Newark, who protested at the event. “That’s the problem. I am a witch.’’
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This is the point at which I thought this article was another satire piece from the Onion.
 
libertarian4321 said:
Dude, grow up.

There are no demons, that's just bull shit that certain religions shovel.

Relax, there's nothing hiding in your closet or under your bet that's going to "get you."

BTW, Wiccans (witches) do NOT worship "demons." The concept of Wiccans "worshipping demons" is a Christian one (also applies to other religions, but NOT Wicca).

Christian religious leaders say Wiccans "worship demons" just to whip up fear, hatred, and hysteria since that's what ALL religions seem to do best. BTW, the idea that Wiccans "worship Satan" is also Christian bull shit- they don't even believe in "Satan."

And yes, Wicca is just as absurd and childish as Christianity or any other religion, but no more so...
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Christ, can you guys correct one person on something regarding theology without inserting afterward, "...by the way, I believe your core values are created by a sky man and your morals are derived from bed time stories! You are so stupid. Have I told you how stupid you are? Because you need to be told that, because you're so fucking stupid." Fuck, you have no sense of common decorum. You can disagree with someone with something they feel strongly about without being a goddamned asshole.
 
RM918 said:
Christ, can you guys correct one person on something regarding theology without inserting afterward, "...by the way, I believe your core values are created by a sky man and your morals are derived from bed time stories! You are so stupid. Have I told you how stupid you are? Because you need to be told that, because you're so fucking stupid." Fuck, you have no sense of common decorum. You can disagree with someone with something they feel strongly about without being a goddamned asshole.
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Bedtime stories have all been watered down and made PC. They were originally intended to scare the shit out of kids.

-t
 
RM918 said:
Christ, can you guys correct one person on something regarding theology without inserting afterward, "...by the way, I believe your core values are created by a sky man and your morals are derived from bed time stories! You are so stupid. Have I told you how stupid you are? Because you need to be told that, because you're so fucking stupid." Fuck, you have no sense of common decorum. You can disagree with someone with something they feel strongly about without being a goddamned asshole.
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+rep
 
tangent4ronpaul said:
Bedtime stories have all been watered down and made PC. They were originally intended to scare the shit out of kids.

-t
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Children need the shit scared out of them sometimes. Maybe they would behave themselves then. My parents told me most of the original stories, and from what I am told I was a well-behaved child.
 
Obviously, not that many here have had the pleasure of keeping lovers with any Wiccan girls, or you wouldn't be so enthusiastic to shun them. *wipes brow in recollections*

Pagan girls are on average so much less jealous & more loyal & genuinely supportive. Every actively Christian girl I've gone out with wanted me to get married, ditch all of my friends and convert (on the same day).
 
Kregisen said:
If religion is so absurd, why spend so much time talking about how absurd it is? Why does this bother atheists so much? If none of it is real then it's obviously a waste of your time even mentioning it.
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Because religion is a cause for so much strife and violence in the world. A world without religion (ALL of them) would be a better and more peaceful place.

And I'm not talking about just the wars, killing, strife and violence caused by religious people attacking each other (and, of course, attacking the non-religious- if there's one thing Christians, Muslims, and Jews can agree on, it's that atheists are evil). Think about all the time and energy wasted on religion. If half the time spent on religion was spent on science, we'd be light years ahead of where we are now.

People are free to believe in religious hocus pocus if they want to, but I'm free (and this is only a recent phenomenon in the world and this country) to point out the absurdity of religion and try to convince them to use their time for something better.
 
Madly_Sane said:
Originally Posted by libertarian4321
If the religious didn't have other religions to hate, what would they do with their time?
makin this my sig

makin this my sig :D
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Go for it. If it gets even one person to stop and consider the brutal stupidity carried out daily in the name of religion (all of them) and make a change, it's a good thing.
 
libertarian4321 said:
Because religion is a cause for so much strife and violence in the world. A world without religion (ALL of them) would be a better and more peaceful place.

And I'm not talking about just the wars, killing, strife and violence caused by religious people attacking each other (and, of course, attacking the non-religious- if there's one thing Christians, Muslims, and Jews can agree on, it's that atheists are evil). Think about all the time and energy wasted on religion. If half the time spent on religion was spent on science, we'd be light years ahead of where we are now.

People are free to believe in religious hocus pocus if they want to, but I'm free (and this is only a recent phenomenon in the world and this country) to point out the absurdity of religion and try to convince them to use their time for something better.
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If they didn't fight over religion they'd just have found something else to fight over. The PEOPLE are the ones committing the violence, they're merely using religion as a cloak or a means to an end.
 
Anti Federalist said:
Thanks for that.

I'll sleep better tonight, knowing that you've figured the entire universe of existence out and have all the answers.

Whew, what a relief.

:rolleyes:
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I never said I had "all the answers."

However, not knowing the answers should make people want to use REASON to try and discover the answer (we call it SCIENCE) rather than create a FAIRY TALE to explain the unknown (we call that RELIGION).

I hope this clears things up for you...
 
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