Occupy Wall Street Vs. Black Friday Consumers At WalMart [Mod Edited Title]

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STOP VIOLATIONS OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT WITH RECEIPT CHECKING
STOP MILITARIZED SECURITY OFFICERS
STOP UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES BY MAJOR CORPORATIONS
STOP MINDLESS CONSUMERISM, STOP FEEDING THE BEAST
BOYCOTT BEST BUY, TARGET, TOYS R US, WALMART

A group of us from Occupy Wallstreet begin to protest the mindless consumerism being displayed on black friday at WalMart locations across the country. Join us as we engage and disrupt corrupt capitalism!
 
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Just dumb. If you can get your goods at a lower price, that means you will have more money in your pockets to spend on other things. This is an utter lack of economic understanding displayed here.
 
JunJun said:
http://george4title.blogspot.com/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-vs-black-friday.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnRaFkN2MBU

STOP VIOLATIONS OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT WITH RECEIPT CHECKING
STOP MILITARIZED SECURITY OFFICERS
STOP UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES BY MAJOR CORPORATIONS
STOP MINDLESS CONSUMERISM, STOP FEEDING THE BEAST
BOYCOTT BEST BUY, TARGET, TOYS R US, WALMART

A group of us from Occupy Wallstreet begin to protest the mindless consumerism being displayed on black friday at WalMart locations across the country. Join us as we engage and disrupt corrupt capitalism!
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-I don't know if receipt checking can really be construed as a violation of the 4th amendment. Regardless, its that companies/store/corporations choice whether they will check receipts or not. It's also the consumers choice to continue to do business with them or not based on their policies. Let the free market reign.
- Who exactly defines what constitutes "fair trade". I see this label alot on food products where I work, and its always just stands out to me as yet another attempt to try and sell one's product. While I don't see anything wrong with this, I don't specifically see anything wrong with "unfair" trade practices. If some company wants to use sweatshopped labor products, let them. But let's also allow the consumer to reward this policy, or punish it based on their spending. (So in essence, protest away.)
 
And how is it "corrupt" capitalism if a person decides to exchange his money for a good that he values more? Dude, that's not corruption you're protesting, it's the free exchange!

I will grant you that the hype is ridiculous, but so what? There's nothing "corrupt" about this. Corruption is taking my money against my will to give to people who you think deserve it more.

Too many of you need to take an economics class. And try to stay awake during it.
 
JunJun said:
http://george4title.blogspot.com/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-vs-black-friday.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnRaFkN2MBU

STOP VIOLATIONS OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT WITH RECEIPT CHECKING
STOP MILITARIZED SECURITY OFFICERS
STOP UNFAIR TRADE PRACTICES BY MAJOR CORPORATIONS
STOP MINDLESS CONSUMERISM, STOP FEEDING THE BEAST
BOYCOTT BEST BUY, TARGET, TOYS R US, WALMART

A group of us from Occupy Wallstreet begin to protest the mindless consumerism being displayed on black friday at WalMart locations across the country. Join us as we engage and disrupt corrupt capitalism!
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Um... Checking your receipt at the door is not a violation of the 4th amendment. If WalMart hires security during black Friday that you don't like, then in a free economy, you can protest by not shopping at WalMart and speaking out against them if you want. You see, the market decides what is acceptable in that regard. If too many people stop patronizing WalMart, they will adjust to the market pressures to stay profitable.

What law do you want to pass to "stop mindless consumerism"? Don't you care about your freedom?

The muckrakers in the early part of the 20th century didn't succeed in stopping unfair trade practices. The new regulations only accomplished a further entrenched corporatism. It succeeded in making monopolies even worse than what they were perceived to be. It opened up new channels where corporations and government colluded and it took away even more of your freedom.

Monopolies exist because of government, not the market. Unfair trade practices are a result of government and business collusion.
 
Employees have no right to check my receipt as I'm leaving unless they have reason to believe I stole something. I just breeze right past them. "Sir! Sir!" See ya.

The one exception I have for this is membership stores like Costco. I agreed to let them check my receipt as part of the membership, so these I will stop for.
 
Stevo_Chill said:
the constitution is written to restrain the government, not walmart.
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True, it's not a 4th amendment violation. Still, no corporate goon has cause to lay hands on me unless they think I stole something. I don't have to show any papers to leave the store.
 
Ugh. George4Title. (aka Ghemminger)

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How was this guy EVER a Ron Paul supporter? He is clueless.

My Experience of Surviving and Thriving in the new economy I'm a Founder of SurviveAndThriveTV and The National Inflation Association. I reports on the economy and helps businesses connect with targeted viewing audiences though online video.
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:rolleyes:

Contrary to what he told Peter Schiff, apparently he's still with NIA too.
 
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kylejack said:
True, it's not a 4th amendment violation. Still, no corporate goon has cause to lay hands on me unless they think I stole something. I don't have to show any papers to leave the store.
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going to walmart is a voluntary action. property rights dictate- they make the rules at walmart.
a lot of stores have account cards for discounts. they use them to track your purchases. i don't feel creeped out about it because i get to choose if i want to use it. and any store that is found to abuse that process would lose customers.
free market works.
 
Stevo_Chill said:
going to walmart is a voluntary action. property rights dictate- they make the rules at walmart.
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Walmart can make many kinds of rules, but they can't keep me from leaving their property. In fact, the penalty for violating most of their rules should be ejection from the property and nothing more. They have no right to detain me, unless they have reason to believe I stole something, and refusal to show my receipt isn't good enough.

Stevo_Chill said:
free market works.
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As does freedom of travel.
 
kylejack said:
Walmart can make many kinds of rules, but they can't keep me from leaving their property. In fact, the penalty for violating most of their rules should be ejection from the property and nothing more. They have no right to detain me, unless they have reason to believe I stole something, and refusal to show my receipt isn't good enough.


As does freedom of travel.
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i think some of the an-caps can better address this, because they deal in terms of no monopoly of force by government. in such a world- a property owner could kidnap someone who they feel have violated their property rights. actually, they could kidnap anyone for any reason. the recourse would be informing people that it isn't safe to shop at walmart or you may end up in a basement cellar with guido.
 
Well if you want to discuss it in an-cap context, I'll use force to protect myself if someone attempts to violate my rights. But anyway, I'm a minarchist.
 
CaptUSA said:
Just dumb. If you can get your goods at a lower price, that means you will have more money in your pockets to spend on other things. This is an utter lack of economic understanding displayed here.
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Not when that is all you can possibly afford.

The flood of cheap imported consumer goods does nothing but mask the currency devaluation.
 
receipt checking is anti-4th Amendment? LMAO. No wonder people see "patriots", conspiracy theorists as criminal and terrorist sympathizers
 
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