Obamas Minimum Wage is Less Than Poverty Level for Family of Four

[DamianTV]

$10.10 an hour means: x 40 hours x 52 weeks = $21,008. The federal poverty level for a family of four is $23,500.

Im not supporting Minimum Wage at all, just doing a bit of math.

Just a thought.

 

[angelatc]

Yeah, I'm sure this is an entirely original thought.

Obviously, somebody with absolutely no skills to offer is entitled to make enough money to support a family of 4. More, even.

My son works 1 job, part time. He makes minimum wage. He does not live at home, he has an apartment he shares with a roommate. He has heat, food, clothing, and internet access. So you can stop fretting already.

 

[DamianTV]

Im glad your son has a job. Not all of us are so fortunate despite serious efforts. Many of us have trade skills as well.

 

[angelatc]

Im glad your son has a job. Not all of us are so fortunate despite serious efforts. Many of us have trade skills as well.

Which has nothing to do with the hand-wringing about the minimum wage not supporting a family of 4.

And my son isn't simply "fortunate." He did what economic immigrants have done for centuries - moved to a city with a better employment rate and literally walked door to door to door for a couple of weeks. He made his own luck.

 

[Tod]

Im not supporting Minimum Wage at all, just doing a bit of math.

Just a thought.

Hand-wringing? I don't see any hand-wringing. Did I read a different post than you, AngelaTC, or are you just a mind-reader?

 

[angelatc]

Hand-wringing? I don't see any hand-wringing. Did I read a different post than you, AngelaTC, or are you just a mind-reader?

You think he was just showing off his mad math skills?

 

[DamianTV]

Jobs is a game of Musical Chairs. Someone is going to lose, and there are fewer and fewer chairs, thus more and more losers.

As far as mad math skillz 1+1=11!

 

[Origanalist]

Let's see, we have a federal minimum wage. We have a federal poverty level. Gosh, what's next?

Is there anything the federal government can't do?

 

[tod evans]

Is there anything the federal government can't do?

Yup, freedom.

 

[Weston White]

But also remember the new full-time is now (or soon will become) 30-hours a week. Because your government just loves you so very, very much... They do not want you working too much, it might inflict you with permanent exhaustion.

 

[Weston White]

Yeah, I'm sure this is an entirely original thought.

Obviously, somebody with absolutely no skills to offer is entitled to make enough money to support a family of 4. More, even.

My son works 1 job, part time. He makes minimum wage. He does not live at home, he has an apartment he shares with a roommate. He has heat, food, clothing, and internet access. So you can stop fretting already.

Are you seriously freaking asserting that if one earns only the minimum wage then they must have "absolutely no skills to offer"? You need to so get over yourself. Seriously.

 

[Philhelm]

Let's see, we have a federal minimum wage. We have a federal poverty level. Gosh, what's next?

Is there anything the federal government can't do?

Federal penis length: "You must be this long to enter."

 

[Cleaner44]

Yeah, I'm sure this is an entirely original thought.

Obviously, somebody with absolutely no skills to offer is entitled to make enough money to support a family of 4. More, even.

My son works 1 job, part time. He makes minimum wage. He does not live at home, he has an apartment he shares with a roommate. He has heat, food, clothing, and internet access. So you can stop fretting already.

I might be wrong here, but I think he was pointing out the irony, not fretting that the federal minimum wage needs to be raised.

 

[angelatc]

Are you seriously freaking asserting that if one earns only the minimum wage then they must have "absolutely no skills to offer"? You need to so get over yourself. Seriously.

I am asserting that only someone with skills that are at least somewhat in short supply will make more than minimum wage, yes.

I have lived long enough to have seen an era where fast food workers were in short supply, and therefore commanded more than minimum wage.

 

[angelatc]

I might be wrong here, but I think he was pointing out the irony, not fretting that the federal minimum wage needs to be raised.

I do not understand the irony. If the proposed federal minimum wage put the worker under the poverty limit for a family of 1, that might be ironic, I guess.

 

[angelatc]

Jobs is a game of Musical Chairs. Someone is going to lose, and there are fewer and fewer chairs, thus more and more losers.

As far as mad math skillz 1+1=11!

Go start your own business. Stop waiting on someone else to do it for you.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

Why are they equating minimum wage with anything more then one person?? Minimum wage is a starting job not meant to raise a fucking family.

 

[ctiger2]

A family of 4 should only be a family of 2 if they both make min wage.

They don't have the earnings to support a family so they should wait to have children until they can financially support them.

 

[ItsTime]

It is not about the helping the poor. It is about helping the unions. Most union wages are tied to the min wage. So if the min wage goes up so does their base pay...

 

[Weston White]

1. Sure that is largely the core of economics for those that sell their labor in exchange for receiving competency (e.g., wage-earners); and not only that, but the greater the demand is placed upon keeping occupations filled or even filling them in the first place the larger their pay increase and vice versa.

2. But it does, one cannot adequately make it out on their own with only $11,490 without also seeking additional aid or outside help, keeping in mind that taxes are excluded (e.g., slump rental fees eats up one-half of that figure alone).

3. Less than 2% of American workers earn at or below the minimum wage, while the average hourly wage in 2013 was slightly at between $13.50 and $16.60. And when accounting for inflation, we find that 40% of Americans are now making less than the average worker did back in 1968, earning $1.60, equaling $10.74 at present.

“In 2012, 24.4 percent of the working poor earned $9 per hour or less, 31.7 percent earned $10.10 per hour or less, and 43.5 percent earned $15 per hour or less.”
See more: http://freebeacon.com/report-only-1-6-of-american-workers-make-the-minimum-wage/

4. A couple should be able to start a family whenever and however they damn well please to, it is the entirety of the government that should cease its practice of fleecing self-sustainability the populace, making it virtually impossible for most individuals to live virtuously.

5. I doubt that most unions really care what the minimum wage is set to; they negotiate their own pay in multitudes beyond whatever the minimum wage is set to and more their figures are largely based upon regional and/or national averaging in-line with inflation projections (including changes within the local worker pool), further supported by worker performance, etc. And come open-contract time unions will often negotiate for higher pay regardless if the minimum wage had increased since their last negotiations or not.