Obamacare +25.5% for me

The medical system really is a joke. My wife has Type I diabetes and has already had two "high risk" pregnancies. In 4 years, I think she has probably stayed a total of 7 days in a hospital between two births. Our youngest had two days in the Nicu for low blood sugar. Appointments through that entire time couldn't have take up more than 50-60 hours, most of which was waiting in a Dr's office. The only other expense she incurred was regular insulin and glucose testing supplies. Somehow, in 4 years, our insurance has been billed to the tune of $ 140k.

Bonanza!
 
My mother in law was forced to buy insurance due to Obamacare. She never had it before and she doesn't make much money at all. She was always able to afford her doctor visits without it though. If she didn't still live with her parents, I don't know how she'd pay the bills without help from us. Even when she gets medicaid and SS we'll eventually have to help out. All these government handouts make everyone's care needlessly expensive especially for the working poor. Those with jobs just getting by are incentivized to quit their jobs and get on welfare. It's admirable that she never did that.
 
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$800/month premium and $5,250 deductible was the 2015 plan. Haven't gotten the 2016, but expecting a double-digit increase.

$15k/year is only slightly more than my mortgage.
 
Obamacare isn't about paying for the welfare mom. She had nothing to do with this other than being the public excuse for the program. Obamacare is about allowing the crony-capitalists to continue to run the massive health care scam for a few more years.

Why pick and choose? There's room enough on the gallows for them all.
 
I have never had a mortgage exceeding 10k per yr.

$175k loan at 4.25 is 10k a yr. alone.

throw on insurance taxes and if your under 20% some pmi and that loan figure probably drops all the way to 125k or so.

Not hard to do these days. We've got acerage and several outbuildings as well as a business on site. Ours is in well excess of $10k a yr.
 
Obamacare isn't about paying for the welfare mom. She had nothing to do with this other than being the public excuse for the program. Obamacare is about allowing the crony-capitalists to continue to run the massive health care scam for a few more years.

You're missing the long con while debunking the short con. Mom's box of chemical comprised "faux food" cakes (no doubt loaded with gmo and stuff you can't pronounce) and gmo corn syrup corrosive soda will result in her and her kids ending up sick and cancerous sooner than you think. That's not an accident. However, in order to provide some semblance of care to the masses that are being sickened by the cheap and intentionally unhealthy food supply, the system must be changed to spread the burden of care across the population, while they slowly die off. Obamacare is the incremental conditioning step toward that socialist health "care" system. This is the depopulation agenda in a nutshell. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it is a longer term agenda than just a temporary bonanza for insurance companies.
 
It is no longer a question of "Do not ask what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" as Kennedy put it, but rather "How much can your Govt take from you without compensation of any form". Citizens no longer the things to be protected, but the resources to be bought, mined, and sold. We have truly become enslaved to the Corporations in this country once again.
 
There are much cheaper religious alternatives, e.g., http://www.chministries.org/howitworks.aspx

Also, if most individuals would dare to report their true sum of annual income to the IRS, they would be well below the income tax reporting threshold--which my family does every year; though the cost for doing so is steep and yet well worth it, over $10,000 in fake civil penalties each year.
 
It is no longer a question of "Do not ask what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" as Kennedy put it, but rather "How much can your Govt take from you without compensation of any form".

I pay quite a bit in taxes, but I do actually get a lot of things in return for the taxes I pay. I get roads, highways, freeways, tollways, parkways, expressways, boulevards, and also bridges as well.
 
I get roads, highways, freeways, tollways, parkways, expressways, boulevards, and also bridges as well.

Since I remember that you are from Texas; you forgot to add the word "shitty" in between "get" and "roads".
 
It's literally a tax on life.

Pretty much.

BammyCare will fail, and I believe that is the intention. There was no way Theye were going to be able to force the single-payer scheme on us - we're not quite that stupid... yet. So Theye settled for the next best thing, with the intention to architect it in such a way that it would have to fail. By that time there is so much investment in the quasi-socialized system that, when combined with the failure and the fear it will bring, people will welcome single-payer, the payer being the federal government, of course. That will wrest all control from all hands and place it into those of the feds. America will take a quantum step toward abdication of what remains of our rights. I say "abdication" because people will happily sell their souls for the illusion of free stuff.
 
I pay quite a bit in taxes, but I do actually get a lot of things in return for the taxes I pay. I get roads, highways, freeways, tollways, parkways, expressways, boulevards, and also bridges as well.

True, and you also get toll-bridges, parking meters, parking enforcement, highway patrol, state troopers, motorcycle cops, and traffic court too!
 
God damn that type of shit pisses me off. You can almost predict who's on snap in front of you at the grocery store based on their cart. Hohos, Doritos and Mountain Dew all name brand. Not sure if I've ever seen one of those fat cows with a piece of fruit or vegetables in their cart.

I'd love to see a study on what percentage of junkfood they buy. The poor don't starve in America, they balloon.
 
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You forgot dead dogs, MRAP's & 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.

Oh yes, and real-time crime monitoring with Internet scraping, police video cameras, shots fired sensors, militant street violence and K9 units, and a fleet of air-support.
 
I'd love to see a study on what percentage of junkfood they buy. The poor don't starve in America, they balloon.

Not sure it takes much, but I think eating mostly Salt and Sugar or Carb filled foods play havok on metabolism.

Even worse, I think there is a lot of pseudo health food that is misleading. Some poor people might make the effort, even if a little misguided, to eat better buying Low Fat food not realizing the Fat has been replaced by salt or sweeteners so it doesn't taste like cardboard.

Even if a Lean Cuisine or Healthy Choice TV Dinner seems marginally healthy, a person chasing after Low Fat will get nice offerings of Potatoes and Rice Carbs. .

The Super Market is full of diet traps like this. The annoying thing is a few might try eating those prepared Salads from the deli and feel hungry if they're not getting much protein or fat.
 
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