Obama To Ohio State U Grads: Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny

That is a fairly standard way of telling you what your opinion is expected to be.


Does it seem like Obama uses the "this is what WE Americans believe in" line a lot? Maybe I just notice it more cuz he's such an asshat.

It always seems like when Ron Paul uses "we" he has the common courtesy to use it in reference to people who agree with his political philosophy, not as a blanket statement of the beliefs of ALL Americans.


Speak for yourself Barry. Your attempts at mind control don't hold up to Internet scrutiny.
 
By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adverse to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.

There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects. ...
-- Federalist No. 10
 
Obama said:
Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems.They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner.

Government is a sinister entity and Tyranny is always lurking just around the corner.
signed,
-Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, James Madison, etc, etc, etc
 
Yeah...I mean Nazi German had democracy, their government was "them" right? No one had anything to worry about.

Also, don't worry about NDAA, patriot act, having a swat team storm in your house and kill you because you might have some plants, etc
because hey, the government is YOU!
 
Well, but 'self governance' is the opposite of government governance, and this is not a Democracy, it is a Republic. That he treats it like a democracy is in fact tyranny over those rights protected FROM the majority.

i almost cannot believe he said what he said, but it goes to show how clueless a sock puppet he really is.

Far and away more disturbing is the fact that he was not booed off the podium. I would have stood tall and turned my back to him.
 
I view this as a good thing. It means libertarians are rising fast enough that Obama must combat us with his ridiculous rhetoric.

That's what I thought as well.....apparently we are making enough noise that he needs to actually defend the gobernnt
:)

This speech tells me that Obama and his ilk are afraid.

They are afraid that the people are beginning to awaken to their transparent attempts to enforce a totalitarian state.

They are afraid that those who tell the truth are beginning to get the message through.

The powers that be are taking the pulpit to try and lull them back to sleep.

This is a sign that we can’t stop spreading the word. We, the people who believe in freedom, are the ones that need to heed one small part of Obama’s speech. We need to resist the urge to be cynical, so that we can patiently continue spreading our message of resistance against tyranny.

We are making progress, enough progress that the tyrants are trying to perform damage control.

Stefan Molyneux does a pretty nice job ripping it apart:

http://youtu.be/GDll7FTgcIA


Watching now, thanks.
 
http://reason.com/archives/2013/05/07/obama-wants-millennials-to-love-big-gove

I couldn't help thinking that Obama and his speechwriters were responding to what they'd read in the New York Times a week before. In "For Millennials, a Tide of Cynicism," the Times reported new polling data from Harvard's Institute of Politics suggesting that Americans under the age of 30, "who turned out in droves to elect Mr. Obama in 2008, are increasingly turned off by politics. Experts fear their cynicism may become permanent." If so, that's pretty good news, because those mysterious "voices" are on to something.
[...]
It's a useful rhetorical trick, the president's decision to reframe skepticism toward overweening federal power as "cynicism." What's "really" cynical is how, in his Ohio State speech, Obama invokes "the Founders" to rebuke "voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate sinister entity" that can degenerate into tyranny.
[...]
Historically, our heritage of healthy skepticism has been an ally of sound government. It makes ambitious federal programs much less likely to pass, decreases support for foreign-policy adventurism, and makes the public less likely to endorse restrictions on civil liberties. When we trust too much is when we get into trouble.

When I first wrote about millennials' political attitudes for The Washington Examiner in 2009, I worried that the "Greatest Generation" would give way to "the Statist Generation." That's what the polling data seemed to show; Among other things, the 2007 Pew Political Values survey revealed "a generation gap in cynicism": where 62 percent of Americans overall view the federal government as wasteful and inefficient, just 42 percent of young people agreed.

These days, millennials are growing less gullible. Majorities disagree that "government spending is an effective way to increase economic growth" and they're skeptical about preventive war, among other results of the Harvard poll. Perhaps most significantly, "Today, only 39 percent of young voters trust the president to do the right thing, as opposed to 44 percent in 2010."

You can see why the president's worried: Kids today may just be wising up. Don't kick them off your lawn just yet.
 
No tyranny lurking under the bed
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/05/no-tyranny-lurking-under-bed.html

Now go the fuck to sleep, says Big Brother Obama. Larry Correia takes exception:
Let’s see… The first American president that’s actually had to argue that he’s not a dictator, who has to have a big debate over whether it is okay to just waste American citizens on US soil without any due process, who broke thousands of federal laws in order to ship guns to Mexican drug cartels to drum up phony stats against his political enemies, and who blamed a terrorist attack on a YouTube video, says that the idea that potential tyranny looms is just silly.

Sounds legit to me!

Sure, Barack Obama has grown the federal leviathan bigger and stronger and more intrusive than it has ever been, and it was already bloated, absurd, and terrifying before, but talking about how this government could become too powerful and thus tyrannical like all of the other governments in human history which did the same thing before… well, that’s just crazy talk!

Why, one wonders, is it important to Obama that Americans "reject these voices", the voices that "incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity" and of lurking tyranny?

We know his executive branch is actively targeting political foes in a way that not even Nixon or Clinton ever dared. We know that his administration regularly lies to the press and the public, about Benghazi and about the IRS investigations. We know he is openly claiming the legal right to assassinate any American, inside or outside U.S. borders, without due process. And we know he is seeking to disarm the American people.

So, with all due respect, I submit it would be unwise to heed his advice. First, it is simple fact that government is a separate entity; it is neither the people nor the nation. Second, while government is not necessarily and intrinsically sinister, the actions of the current U.S. government and the present administration most certainly are.
 
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