Obama Threatens to Veto CISPA

[rockerrockstar]

Obama Threatens to Veto CISPA. See full article at link below quote.

This is HUGE: President Obama just threatened to veto CISPA if it makes its way through Congress.

Please add your name at right to urge Obama to stand strong, and to let your lawmakers know that you support Obama's veto threat.

CISPA is up for a vote this week. It would obliterate any semblance of online privacy in the United States, giving the government -- including the military -- broad new powers to spy on Internet users.

The White House's letter expresses precisely the concerns that we've been highlighting over recent weeks -- and is a result of the public pressure against CISPA:

http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/ ?akid=1325.11502.6eJHwC&rd=1&t=2


Whitehouse statement:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/112/saphr3523r_20120425.pdf

 

[thoughtomator]

what's his angle?

 

[jmdrake]

what's his angle?

re-election

 

[dannno]

what's his angle?

re-election

lol, yep, it's about that time isn't it.

 

[rockerrockstar]

what's his angle?

"The White House's letter expresses precisely the concerns that we've been highlighting over recent weeks -- and is a result of the public pressure against CISPA:

The White House says that any cybersecurity legislation must preserve "Americans' privacy, data confidentiality, and civil liberties and [recognize] the civilian nature of cyberspace."
It says that, "The bill also lacks sufficient limitations on the sharing of personally identifiable information between private entities and does not contain adequate oversight or accountability measures necessary to ensure that the data is used only for appropriate purposes."
And the letter goes on to assert that:

The American people expect their Government to enhance security without undermining their privacy and civil liberties.

Without clear legal protections and independent oversight, information sharing legislation will undermine the public's trust in the Government as well as in the Internet by undermining fundamental privacy, confidentiality, civil liberties, and consumer protections."

 

[thoughtomator]

Obviously any claim of interest in our privacy (other than to violate it) is pure fabrication.

It would be more consistent with his history if he is holding out for something even more invasive.

 

[rockerrockstar]

Obviously any claim of interest in our privacy (other than to violate it) is pure fabrication.

It would be more consistent with his history if he is holding out for something even more invasive.

I just found infowars take on it. They agree with you. Let's just hope Obama does veto because it is a win for liberty.

Indeed, the real reason behind the administration’s hostility to CISPA is revealed later in the email – that it doesn’t give the Department of Homeland Security enough power over Internet traffic.
“H.R. 3523 effectively treats domestic cybersecurity as an intelligence activity and thus, significantly departs from longstanding efforts to treat the Internet and cyberspace as civilian spheres. The Administration believes that a civilian agency – the Department of Homeland Security – must have a central role in domestic cybersecurity, including for conducting and overseeing the exchange of cybersecurity information with the private sector and with sector-specific Federal agencies,” states the email.

http://www.infowars.com/white-house-threat-to-veto-cispa-is-a-crude-stunt/

 

[thoughtomator]

Well, one would have to be a complete fool to think the guy pushing TSA to molest children and grandmothers (in the name of allegedly looking for "terrorists") is bothered by the invasion-of-privacy aspect of the bill, so logic dictates that his objection (if real) must be something else.

 

[ZENemy]

I hope he doesn't use the same MAGIC VETO pen that he used for the NDAA, and by magic I mean FAKE. He said this last time, not only did he NOT veto it, he ended up demanding that American's are included.

So, he will "VETO" this by adding "everyone's password must be "Obama" for every website"

 

[rockerrockstar]

Well, one would have to be a complete fool to think the guy pushing TSA to molest children and grandmothers (in the name of allegedly looking for "terrorists") is bothered by the invasion-of-privacy aspect of the bill, so logic dictates that his objection (if real) must be something else.

He is probably smart enough to know people would be very upset if this law passed. Look at how mad people were about last anti piracy bill that they tried to pass SOPA.

 

[rockerrockstar]

I hope he doesn't use the same MAGIC VETO pen that he used for the NDAA, and by magic I mean FAKE. He said this last time, not only did he NOT veto it, he ended up demanding that American's are included.

So, he will "VETO" this by adding "everyone's password must be "Obama" for every website"

I hope not. I agree that makes me worried too. He did say he would veto NDAA but then passed it.

Check this out John Boehner (R-Ohio) expressed his support of the bill

Democrats argue the bill should give the Department of Homeland Security more authority over private networks. President Barack Obama has also opposed the legislation and has threatened a veto.

On the flip side, Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) expressed his support of the bill Tuesday, arguing that would help the economy and protect jobs. The bill would give businesses incentives to share information on cyber-threats with the government, which in turn could share classified data with businesses. Republicans expect the bill to pass the House.

http://www.mndaily.com/blogs/newsstand/2012/04/25/cispa-heads-house-vote-draws-fire

Speaker of the House John Boehner, R-Ohio, expressed his support for controversial cybersecurity legislation on Tuesday, calling it a "common-sense solution" that will help protect America's economy.

The House is poised to debate the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, which would give businesses incentives to share cyberthreat information with government, and allow government agencies to share classified data with businesses.

The bill sparked civil liberties concerns and the White House and some Democrats say any cybersecurity legislation needs to give Homeland Security officials more authority to oversee private networks.

But in a commentary in Investor's Business Daily, Boehner said the bill strikes the right balance.

"The private sector owns and operates most of the networks under assault. So instead of imposing new mandates, or having government agencies monitor or police private networks, [CISPA] helps private-sector job creators defend themselves and their users," he wrote.

Republicans are predicting the bill, which has gathered bipartisan support, will pass the House, along with several other cybersecurity bills aimed at bolstering federal network security and providing for more R&D.

http://techdailydose.nationaljournal.com/2012/04/boehner-cispa-will-help-econom.php

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I hope he doesn't use the same MAGIC VETO pen that he used for the NDAA, and by magic I mean FAKE. He said this last time, not only did he NOT veto it, he ended up demanding that American's are included.
So, he will "VETO" this by adding "everyone's password must be "Obama" for every website"

+rep.

 

[bolil]

Even if he does veto this one, it will be back and likely in a more dastardly form. Still, I hope he will veto it.

 

[marcirvine]

ill believe it when i see it

 

[phill4paul]

Here I'll write the press release....

The White House on Wednesday said it would not veto the controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) of 2012.

President Barack Obama’s spokesman Jay Carney said the latest version of the legislation had addressed his worries about new rules on information sharing.

 

[Kluge]

re-election

Bingo!

It'll pass after his re-election.

 

[KingRobbStark]

Sure. He also promised to veto NDAA.


He didn't.

 

[The Northbreather]

what's his angle?

From another article http://www.dailytech.com/Ron+Paul+P...sition+of+Cybersecurity+Bill/article24557.htm

President Obama has threatened to veto the measure if passes the House and Senate.

"[T]he bill would allow broad sharing of information with governmental entities without establishing requirements for both industry and the Government to minimize and protect personally identifiable information," he complains in a letter, "[It] lacks sufficient limitations on the sharing of personally identifiable information between private entities and does not contain adequate oversight or accountability measures necessary to ensure that the data is used only for appropriate purposes."

One controversial aspect of the bill is that it would grant corporations who share personally identifiable information wtih the government immunity from lawsuits.

But where Rep. Paul and the POTUS may diverge in their criticisms is in their opinion of what to do. Rep. Paul would like to see the measure scrapped entirely. By contrast President Obama is lobbying for the removal of the corporate immunity provision. But he's also pushing for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to oversee the program, potentially handing it a host of private personal information on U.S. citizens -- a idea which would surely make Rep. Paul cringe.

 

[seraphson]

Bingo!

It'll pass after his re-election.

Of course under a different name. I think GOTCHYA would be a fitting acronym for the third iterations of SOPA.

 

[kasjun]

I don't believe anything Obama says. He is just a liar. He can't help himself.