Obama set to use executive power to enact gun control measures

[Dianne]

I don't know if you can say that.

Sometimes people attempt suicide and call for help after downing pills or are found while hanging, suffocating, etc. A gun shot to the skull is a bit hard to come back from, should one rethink one's thoughts on the merits of living after pulling a trigger.

But that isn't the point. There are far better ways to prevent suicides than by trampling on gun rights.

Well it's not our issue to police suicide. If someone wants to go, let them go for goodness sake. Look at Europe... they are now allowing minors to opt for medically assisted suicides. It's not your business; nor mine, nor Obozo's to tell someone they have to live in torture if they wish to pass beyond this world.

 

[KingNothing]

Well it's not our issue to police suicide. If someone wants to go, let them go for goodness sake. Look at Europe... they are now allowing minors to opt for medically assisted suicides. It's not your business; nor mine, nor Obozo's to tell someone they have to live in torture if they wish to pass beyond this world.

I think that when most people choose suicide they are not of sound mind. With some compassion and help, they can likely begin to turn their lives around. Having said that, everyone has a right to do what they wish with their bodies, and we have no right to stand in their way. But we should always be looking to help each other, and we should always remember that life is sacred.

I'd rather not look to Europe for advice on this matter, or any matter, really. Europe sucks.

 

[Dianne]

I think that when most people choose suicide they are not of sound mind. With some compassion and help, they can likely begin to turn their lives around. Everyone has a right to do what they wish with their bodies, and we have no right to stand in their way. But we should always be looking to help each other, and we should always remember that life is sacred.

I'd rather not look to Europe for advice on this matter, or any matter, really. Europe sucks.

I would rather not look at Obozo to solve the world's problems. How many people, including children, has that asshat murdered?

 

[KingNothing]

I would rather not look at Obozo to solve the world's problems. How many people, including children, has that asshat murdered?

I'd rather not look to Obama for anything. I'd rather never hear from Obama again. I wish he would close down the white house, retire, and go away forever.

He's an ass, a sissy, and a power hungry, liberty-hating progressive.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I don't know if you can say that.

Sometimes people attempt suicide and call for help after downing pills or are found while hanging, suffocating, etc. A gun shot to the skull is a bit hard to come back from, should one rethink one's thoughts on the merits of living after pulling a trigger.

But that isn't the point. There are far better ways to prevent suicides than by trampling on gun rights.

Valid point on pills and such, but a jump from a high place, a drive off a cliff or a jump in front of a train is pretty permanent.

 

[morfeeis]

I don't see how any of the proposed EO's change a damn thing. Pretty big let-down actually... I was hoping he would propose the No Fly List thing and we could make it a constitutional campaign issue pointing out his error... this is just lame and doesn't affect me or anyone I know.

Unless you have a gun trust, in that case i just stepped into a world of shit...

 

[morfeeis]

I don't know if you can say that.

Sometimes people attempt suicide and call for help after downing pills or are found while hanging, suffocating, etc. A gun shot to the skull is a bit hard to come back from, should one rethink one's thoughts on the merits of living after pulling a trigger.

But that isn't the point. There are far better ways to prevent suicides than by trampling on gun rights.

But in nearly 20 years of studying threats, attempts and eventsleading up to the deaths of young people who killed themselves, and
implementing policies to prevent it, psychologist Paul Joffe, Ph.D., has
come to see that suicide isn't always a cry for help. Sometimes--perhaps
more often than not, especially among people of college age--it's an
instrument of power and control.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200305/not-always-cry-help

women attempt sucide far more often than men, but men complete the act more often as they tend to use far more violent tools. so if it wasn't a firearm they would just start jumping more or find some other way. those who are looking to end their life find a way. I read a study on suicide and it spoke about this guy who stabbed himself in the chest with a kitchen knife REPEATEDLY!!! to end his life.

 

[Uriel999]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200305/not-always-cry-help

women attempt sucide far more often than men, but men complete the act more often as they tend to use far more violent tools. so if it wasn't a firearm they would just start jumping more or find some other way. those who are looking to end their life find a way. I read a study on suicide and it spoke about this guy who stabbed himself in the chest with a kitchen knife REPEATEDLY!!! to end his life.

Well no shit. Men are simply better at getting the job of killing done.

Granted, women are better at sucking out the soul of the living and making live unbearable.

 

[Weston White]

At one point he goes about making jokes about his poor memory, then a few moments later he is shedding tears over incidents that can only be described as orchestrated events--Aurora, Sandy Hook, Boston, etc. Well, emotional appeal and fear-mongering are the most desperate, weakest, forms of debate.

So, when is B-O going to shed tears for all the Mexican children killed by the drug cartels provided assaulted weapons through his own administrations Fast and Furious scheme? And let us not even get started on all the children killed from his authorized use of drone-strikes across the lands of disenfranchised people.

ETA:

And where have there been anything even close to 300 mass-shooting incidents in the US this last year, which requires at least four related deaths, excluding the shooters own loss of life.

Here, barely makes it to page 2/14 for 2015 shooting incidents: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shootings/2015?sort=desc&order=# Killed

 

[Weston White]

...Comparable stats for reference: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?957-United-States-Enumerated-Causes-of-Death-per-Annum

Less than 2% care about this issue anyways, but 126,438 die from accidents, so perhaps it should be made a federal felony for each mishap you have, 10-years in the clink and $25,000 fine per occurrence should drop those numbers way, way down.

 

[Anti Federalist]

"This notion of a conspiracy out there..." Obama began to answer when Anderson Cooper cut him off.

“Is it fair to call it a conspiracy?" Cooper interjected. "A lot of people really believe this deeply. They just don’t trust you.”

"I’m sorry, Cooper. Yes it is fair to call it a conspiracy," Obama shot back incredulously. "What are you saying? Are you suggesting that the notion that we are creating a plot to take everybody’s guns away so that we can impose martial law is a conspiracy? Yes that is a conspiracy! I would hope that you would agree with that. Is that controversial?"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-hosts-town-hall-gun-control/story?id=36153011

No, you declare martial law and then take away the guns.

 

[BV2]

So, the Cabal understand what happens when the Prez blathers about gun control, right? Theye know it leads people to buy guns. Why would theye want more people having guns? Sales tax? Or maybe theye really don't give a shit whether Americans are armed, or not. But it certainly is a convenient issue with which to divide the population and keep them grossly distracted. You know, how like they do with weed, gay marriage, et al.

Could it be that it doesn't matter whether the people are armed or not? Perhaps they are more venial than we think: In it for the moulah. Is money is power, just get the money and the power will follow.

 

[Weston White]

Playing dumb is a fairly accurate tell-tale of underlying ulterior motives. As is other nations have never accomplished such a feat.

 

[Cabal]

So, the Cabal understand what happens when the Prez blathers about gun control, right?

Of course we do.

 

[Occam's Banana]

"This notion of a conspiracy out there..." Obama began to answer when Anderson Cooper cut him off.

“Is it fair to call it a conspiracy?" Cooper interjected. "A lot of people really believe this deeply. They just don’t trust you.”

"I’m sorry, Cooper. Yes it is fair to call it a conspiracy," Obama shot back incredulously. "What are you saying? Are you suggesting that the notion that we are creating a plot to take everybody’s guns away so that we can impose martial law is a conspiracy? Yes that is a conspiracy! I would hope that you would agree with that. Is that controversial?"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-hosts-town-hall-gun-control/story?id=36153011

What? So, wait ... What? ... Is Obama some kind of conspiracy theorist, then? Is that what I'm reading here?

Or is he saying that he's party to a conspiracy? Or that the notion that he's party to a conspiracy is a conspiracy?

In short: what in the ever-loving fuck is this jackass babbling about?

(Seriously, though - this man, who has been alleged to be an orator of some skill, is apparently unable to verbally distinguish between a "conspiracy" and a "conspiracy theory" ... SMDH ... Stick to your teleprompters, you inarticulate boob ... Oh, yeah, and keep your goddam pie-hooks off our guns, too, asshole! ...)

 

[Zippyjuan]

What? So, wait ... What? ... Is Obama some kind of conspiracy theorist, then? Is that what I'm reading here?

Or is he saying that he's party to a conspiracy? Or that the notion that he's party to a conspiracy is a conspiracy?

In short: what in the ever-loving fuck is this jackass babbling about?

(Seriously, though - this man, who has been alleged to be an orator of some skill, is apparently unable to verbally distinguish between a "conspiracy" and a "conspiracy theory" ... SMDH ... Stick to your teleprompters, you inarticulate boob ... Oh, yeah, and keep your goddam pie-hooks off our guns, too, asshole! ...)

What he said was that there are some who think he wants to take away all guns and declare martial law. He refered to it as a "Conspiracy (theory)". He said that people "on some websites" would jump to that conclusion.

What I think Mark is alluding to is what I said earlier, this notion of a conspiracy out there, and it gets wrapped up in concerns about the Federal government.

Now, there's a long history of that, that's in our DNA, you know? The United States was born suspicious of some distant authority...

COOPER: ... now, let me just jump in here, is it fair to call it a conspiracy...

OBAMA: ... well, yeah...

COOPER: ... because a lot of people really believe this deeply, that they just don't...

OBAMA: ... no...

COOPER: ... they just don't trust you.

OBAMA: I'm sorry, Cooper, yes. It is fair to call the conspiracy, what are you saying? Are you suggesting that the notion that we are creating a plot to take everybody's guns away so that we can impose martial law...

COOPER: ... not everybody, but there's certainly a lot of...

OBAMA: ... but a conspiracy? Yes, that is a conspiracy! I would hope that would agree with that.

(APPLAUSE)

OBAMA: Is that controversial? Except on some websites...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/politics/transcript-obama-town-hall-guns-in-america/

 

[Cabal]

Lol. That just makes him sound even more inarticulate and derpy than Banana originally thought.

 

[Occam's Banana]

He refered to it as a "Conspiracy (theory)".

He referred to it as a "consipracy" - your post facto insertion of the parenthetical only serves to illustrate what I have already said:

[...] this man, who has been alleged to be an orator of some skill, is apparently unable to verbally distinguish between a "conspiracy" and a "conspiracy theory" [...]

 

[Pericles]

What has really changed? Its like if I was a government agency and I wanted to give away or sell thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels, I would now need to get a FFL for that?

 

[Weston White]

What he said was that there are some who think he wants to take away all guns and declare martial law. He refered to it as a "Conspiracy (theory)". He said that people "on some websites" would jump to that conclusion.



http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/07/politics/transcript-obama-town-hall-guns-in-america/

You are seriously arguing in favor of a man that believes conspiracy "(theories)" are embedded in our DNA? For a man that gets confused by the total number of U.S. states?

And as already stated martial law will be declared with a stipulation for firearms and bullets to be surrendered, only it will not be called that it will be given a pleasant, kitchy sounding name, such as a declaration of national emergency.