Obama sends US combat troops to Uganda

[-C-]

Pay Attention.

it isn't just Uganda.

Obama said that "elements of these U.S. forces will deploy into Uganda, South Sudan, the Central African Republic, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo."

Look the gov't of Uganda offered him sanctuary essentially if he just stopped his movements. However as soon as a deal was even BEGINNING to be discussed between the Rebel Lord, and the Gov't of Uganda, the British-sponsored International Criminal Court disallowed the pardon.

This will only increase the hotspots in the region, and further wreck hell on the general welfare of the populations, primarily through lack of a logistical basis for food delivery, if it even exists.

The problem is the British and French model of the Sykes-Picot Agreement that have governed the region for centuries, and we have only capitulated with that policy and/or made it worse.

So many people simply refuse to identify the obvious British Policy Trend that we the United States have been adopting, in the last 60 years especially. We have totally ruined our policy on all fronts due to being a virtual Vassal(slut) to the United Kingdom/London.

Obama loves the Queen, learn that. I heard he is adopting the British Model of the Official Secrets Act to tack on to provisions of the already sickening Patriot Act...but that is old news.

 

[Jake Ralston]

Hopefully Rand will call his ass out on it. Will Soetoro report to Congress on this in a timely manner specified in the war powers act?

Don't we have to be either attacked or under imminent threat for the War Powers Act to even apply?

 

[pcosmar]

Don't we have to be either attacked or under imminent threat for the War Powers Act to even apply?

They have loaded their best fighters armed with rusty AKs, into hollowed out log boats and they are rowing this way.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

i've just started researching, but it seems as though the LRA was started in response to the islamists (especially in Northern Sudan) and their rape and murdering of the animist tribes (and christians) in the South (and throughout that whole region.

it would seem, if one does a check on who has control of the governments in those countries, they aren't secular, they are muslim controlled. and jihad has been going on for a long time in central africa against the animist tribes.

edit: sudan has oil. so does uganda now: http://www.afrol.com/articles/21834

shit...and which American Companies are going to pick up the contracts to extract it?

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Don't we have to be either attacked or under imminent threat for the War Powers Act to even apply?

i doubt anyone brings in the WPA. CONgress has already "authorized" use of military force in the region.

in the name of precedent, this military action is "legitimate".

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-1067

It is the policy of the United States to work with regional governments toward a comprehensive and lasting resolution to the conflict in northern Uganda and other affected areas by--

(1) providing political, economic, military, and intelligence support for viable multilateral efforts to protect civilians from the Lord’s Resistance Army, to apprehend or remove Joseph Kony and his top commanders from the battlefield in the continued absence of a negotiated solution, and to disarm and demobilize the remaining Lord’s Resistance Army fighters;

(2) targeting assistance to respond to the humanitarian needs of populations in northeastern Congo, southern Sudan, and Central African Republic currently affected by the activity of the Lord’s Resistance Army; and

(3) further supporting and encouraging efforts of the Government of Uganda and civil society to promote comprehensive reconstruction, transitional justice, and reconciliation in northern Uganda as affirmed in the Northern Uganda Crisis Response Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-283) and subsequent resolutions, including Senate Resolution 366, 109th Congress, agreed to February 2, 2006, Senate Resolution 573, 109th Congress, agreed to September 19, 2006, Senate Concurrent Resolution 16, 110th Congress, agreed to in the Senate March 1, 2007, and House Concurrent Resolution 80, 110th Congress, agreed to in the House of Representatives June 18, 2007.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

http://www.platformlondon.org/carbonweb/showitem.asp?article=375&parent=9--

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203499704576624603999841100.html

http://www.ugpulse.com/business/com...ration-holding-uganda-s-oil-dream/629/ug.aspx

My bad... U.K.

so, what National Security does the U.S.A. have at stake????

 

[flightlesskiwi]

http://www.platformlondon.org/carbonweb/showitem.asp?article=375&parent=9--

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203499704576624603999841100.html

http://www.ugpulse.com/business/com...ration-holding-uganda-s-oil-dream/629/ug.aspx

My bad... U.K.

so, what National Security does the U.S.A. have at stake????

short answer: none.

long answer: congress has "authorized" this. it's "humanitarian".

longer answer: http://stratsisincite.wordpress.com...-infrastructure-and-oil-industry-development/ <--china.

edit: and, apparently, we are busy ass-kissing the UK.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Kinda wondering why Ron didn't say anything. It passed my unanimous voice vote. Perhaps he was in an interview or something?

I've been calling Rand's BS on being okay with the language in the pre-no-fly zone Libya bill (had references to supporting the ousting of Khaddaffy Duck and giving material support to the rebels), I'm gonna have to do the same here.

 

[anaconda]

With only 100 troops it truly does seem humanitarian. But given Obama's past, this will turn into something redonkulous.

Vietnam started small with only "advisers." Obama is trying to fly under the radar here. But we won't let him. I hope Rand calls his ass out on this just like he did with Libya.

 

[anaconda]

Kinda wondering why Ron didn't say anything. It passed my unanimous voice vote. Perhaps he was in an interview or something?

I've been calling Rand's BS on being okay with the language in the pre-no-fly zone Libya bill (had references to supporting the ousting of Khaddaffy Duck and giving material support to the rebels), I'm gonna have to do the same here.

I missed this. This is disturbing. Do you have any good links on this? I called Rand's office on the Iran sanctions letter but they just said they would put my comments into the system or words to that effect. I told the lady on the phone that the "Forums were pissed."

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Vietnam started small with only "advisers." Obama is trying to fly under the radar here. But we won't let him. I hope Rand calls his ass out on this just like he did with Libya.

+ rep

Exactly

 

[Pauls' Revere]

OH HELL NO !!!

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2545&t=8096836

After Obama announced earlier this week that he would be sending American troops into Uganda, WND uncovered billionaire activist George Soros' ties both to the political pressure behind the decision and to the African nation's fledgling oil industry.

Soros sits on the executive board of an influential "crisis management organization" that recently recommended the U.S. deploy a special advisory military team to Uganda to help with operations and run an intelligence platform, a recommendation Obama's action seems to fulfill.

The president emeritus of that organization, the International Crisis Group, is also the principal author of "Responsibility to Protect," the military doctrine used by Obama to justify the U.S.-led NATO campaign in Libya.

Soros' own Open Society Institute is one of only three nongovernmental funders of the Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect, a doctrine that has been cited many times by activists urging intervention in Uganda.

Authors and advisers of the Responsibility to Protect doctrine, including a center founded and led by Samantha Power, the National Security Council special adviser to Obama on human rights, also helped to found the International Criminal Court

Soros' hand in Ugandan oil industry

Oil exploration began in Uganda's northwestern Lake Albert basin nearly a decade ago, with initial strikes being made in 2006.

Uganda's Energy Ministry estimates the country has over 2 billion barrels of oil, with some estimates going as high as 6 billion barrels. Production is set to begin in 2015, delayed from 2013 in part because the country has not put in place a regulatory framework for the oil industry.

A 2008 national oil and gas policy, proposed with aid from a Soros-funded group, was supposed to be a general road map for the handling and use of the oil. However, the policy's recommendations have been largely ignored, with critics accusing Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni of corruption and of tightening his grip on the African country's emerging oil sector.

Soros himself has been closely tied to oil and other interests in Uganda.

In 2008, the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute brought together stakeholders from Uganda and other East African countries to discuss critical governance issues, including the formation of what became Uganda's national oil and gas policy.

Also in 2008, the Africa Institute for Energy Governance, a grantee of the Soros-funded Revenue Watch, helped established the Publish What You Pay Coalition of Uganda, or PWYP, which was purportedly launched to coordinate and streamline the efforts of the government in promoting transparency and accountability in the oil sector.

Also, a steering committee was formed for PWYP Uganda to develop an agenda for implementing the oil advocacy initiatives and a constitution to guide PWYP's oil work.

PWYP has since 2006 hosted a number of training workshops in Uganda purportedly to promote contract transparency in Uganda's oil sector.

PWYP is directly funded by Soros' Open Society as well as the the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute. PWYP international is actually hosted by the Open Society Foundation in London.

&^%#@*&!!

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Soros: master of arbitrage (monetary, national and human).

 

[anaconda]

OH HELL NO !!!

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=159&f=2545&t=8096836

After Obama announced earlier this week that he would be sending American troops into Uganda, WND uncovered billionaire activist George Soros' ties both to the political pressure behind the decision and to the African nation's fledgling oil industry.

Soros sits on the executive board of an influential "crisis management organization" that recently recommended the U.S. deploy a special advisory military team to Uganda to help with operations and run an intelligence platform, a recommendation Obama's action seems to fulfill.

The president emeritus of that organization, the International Crisis Group, is also the principal author of "Responsibility to Protect," the military doctrine used by Obama to justify the U.S.-led NATO campaign in Libya.

Soros' own Open Society Institute is one of only three nongovernmental funders of the Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect, a doctrine that has been cited many times by activists urging intervention in Uganda.

Authors and advisers of the Responsibility to Protect doctrine, including a center founded and led by Samantha Power, the National Security Council special adviser to Obama on human rights, also helped to found the International Criminal Court

Soros' hand in Ugandan oil industry

Oil exploration began in Uganda's northwestern Lake Albert basin nearly a decade ago, with initial strikes being made in 2006.

Uganda's Energy Ministry estimates the country has over 2 billion barrels of oil, with some estimates going as high as 6 billion barrels. Production is set to begin in 2015, delayed from 2013 in part because the country has not put in place a regulatory framework for the oil industry.

A 2008 national oil and gas policy, proposed with aid from a Soros-funded group, was supposed to be a general road map for the handling and use of the oil. However, the policy's recommendations have been largely ignored, with critics accusing Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni of corruption and of tightening his grip on the African country's emerging oil sector.

Soros himself has been closely tied to oil and other interests in Uganda.

In 2008, the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute brought together stakeholders from Uganda and other East African countries to discuss critical governance issues, including the formation of what became Uganda's national oil and gas policy.

Also in 2008, the Africa Institute for Energy Governance, a grantee of the Soros-funded Revenue Watch, helped established the Publish What You Pay Coalition of Uganda, or PWYP, which was purportedly launched to coordinate and streamline the efforts of the government in promoting transparency and accountability in the oil sector.

Also, a steering committee was formed for PWYP Uganda to develop an agenda for implementing the oil advocacy initiatives and a constitution to guide PWYP's oil work.

PWYP has since 2006 hosted a number of training workshops in Uganda purportedly to promote contract transparency in Uganda's oil sector.

PWYP is directly funded by Soros' Open Society as well as the the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute. PWYP international is actually hosted by the Open Society Foundation in London.

&^%#@*&!!

People should be rioting in the streets over this. This is completely transparent use of troops for corporate market share.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

Vietnam started small with only "advisers." Obama is trying to fly under the radar here. But we won't let him. I hope Rand calls his ass out on this just like he did with Libya.

+ rep

Exactly

i can't remember who wrote it, or where i heard it, but i'm pretty certain it was on these forums.

when someone mentions that "military advisers" were sent to a country (or had been in a country): one is obligated to know that means the green berets were/are there.

sure enough:

The first wave of U.S. Special Forces Green Berets arrived in Uganda this week to support the battle against a guerrilla group accused of widespread atrocities, Pentagon and military officials told NBC News.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44906...-sends-military-advisers-fight-africa-rebels/

here. we. go.

 

[-C-]

When will people understand this President is nothing more than a Royal Governor for the The Royal Family....I mean shit even George Soros is a British Foreign Office agent, this is just the same Imperial Policy as before, and we're the pawns to enforce it.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I was just about to post this. Thanks, OP. Rather interesting, isn't it? Last century, the war pigs were more interested in attacking "civilized" people who could actually fight back. Now they like attacking third world countries with little to no major defense. If it weren't so tragic, it'd be funny.

 

[ExPatPaki]

i've just started researching, but it seems as though the LRA was started in response to the islamists (especially in Northern Sudan) and their rape and murdering of the animist tribes (and christians) in the South (and throughout that whole region.

No, the LRA is actually supported by the Sudanese government and the LRA's victims seem to be mostly other Christians, since they are usually pillaging mostly Christian Uganda.

 

[Republicanguy]

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4223/centralafricanrepublicsmz0.jpg

That is one Central African soldier, one alone won't destroy the LRA. President Bozize is an ex general, not exactly George Washington, Central African style. But surely they could do this themselves.

A bit of luck, a bit of determination. They already receive aid money, it isn't as if they need America's help right there.

With the help of the French soldiers stationed in the country.

What do they have to lose, except votes in poor elections and dead civilians. But surely a military footing is better than having those rebels run around. It certainly must be a tough fight, to go against poorly trained militias, the CAR military is equipt for this. They do need training and the rest that goes along with maintaining a military.

 

[oyarde]

No, the LRA is actually supported by the Sudanese government and the LRA's victims seem to be mostly other Christians, since they are usually pillaging mostly Christian Uganda.

Correct , and one of the reasons Sudan supports them is Uganda supports the Sudan Liberation Army.