Obama Sends Feds to Shut Down Medical Marijuana Industry in California

[Jandrsn21]

Obama is already teetering in edge of collapse with his re-election bid. Now he takes the pot smokers in America, which I venture is double digit percentage points of our population, and attacks them! Maybe the establishment has given up on saving his image! Insert next dupe! copy paste rinse repeat!

 

[Fox McCloud]

If I was Governor of California, I think I would send a number of police officers to a few of the locations to guard the stores to at least send a message.

 

[speciallyblend]

If I was Governor of California, I think I would send a number of police officers to a few of the locations to guard the stores to at least send a message.

everyone should call the cali governor and ask them to please protect the ill medical patients and arrest the federal terrorists.

 

[PierzStyx]

So much for Tom Wood's nullification hypothesis.

Nullification went out in 1865, like it or not.

 

[PierzStyx]

If I was Governor of California, I think I would send a number of police officers to a few of the locations to guard the stores to at least send a message.

Sure if you want the state to declared in a state of rebellion and martial law imposed on the state.

 

[PierzStyx]

Actually that is completely untrue. Cannabis has never been linked to lung cancer. In fact, THC is an anti-cancer agent that has shown to shrink tumors in mice. There are plenty of studies on all of this out there. The only studies that claim cannabis causes cancer are ones that compare oil content, but increased oil content in cannabis is actually a positive thing because it means you end up smoking less plant matter for the same effect.




Well I am a full time employed (5 years at the same job), former honors graduate student who got a 4.0 GPA and have been high on cannabis for the last 10 years of my life. It helped me get through school while simultaneously working full time. It does not deteriorate mental function, although it does change the way you think which can be confusing for some inexperienced users. This is assuming you are using clean, relatively high grade cannabis.





The THC pills big pharma makes don't work, they actually make people more sick. There is a relatively easy process, however, whereby you can eat it in food.

However smoking or vaporizing is much more effective if you are using it BECAUSE YOU CAN'T EAT. Imagine telling somebody who can't keep down food to try and eat that pot brownie so that they can keep down food. Not really effective.

Smoking is great also because you can better titrate your dosage. Eating it is difficult because you don't know exactly how much you are getting or how much you need for it to be medicinally beneficial at the time.

I could support eating it in food. But pills are still a better way to give exact measured doses than smoking would be, or eating it for that matter. Smoking it can make you sick as well. So that isn't a reason to support it over a pill. I think the reason better pills aren't there (assuming all pills make you sick) has more to do with the drug war than anything else. The incentive isn't really there to make a higher grade product. More investment would produce better results. You make a good point about eating, but then if you literally are unable to eat, ever, then you're in severe condition in which case you're probably on a feeding tube. And that could be utilized for THC delivery.

And as for cancer causing, I've found various tests that show both its cancer causing in smoke and its cancer reducing effects. My general understanding as consensus of everything I've read is that pot smoke = cancer causing , pot oil =anti-cancer agent. This leads me to support a pill or edible oil over smoking even more so, not less.

And as for personal experience, I have a 47 yr old uncle who is an intelligent man who literally never made it out of his mother's house. He became a recreational pot smoker in the 70s and ever since its been his life. So much so that all he does is sit around, smoke pot, and watch television. He complains about having to drive my half-blind grandmother anywhere when its all he has to do around the house. He is the living embodiment of every anti-drug commercial ever. And in my experience people tend to be more like him than yourself.

 

[silentshout]

And as for personal experience, I have a 47 yr old uncle who is an intelligent man who literally never made it out of his mother's house. He became a recreational pot smoker in the 70s and ever since its been his life. So much so that all he does is sit around, smoke pot, and watch television. He complains about having to drive my half-blind grandmother anywhere when its all he has to do around the house. He is the living embodiment of every anti-drug commercial ever. And in my experience people tend to be more like him than yourself.

That's because most responsible, hard-working people who use cannabis, medicinally or recreationally on their time off, are in the closet, so you don't hear as much about them. They have much more to lose than someone in their mother's basement would.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Watch 1,000s of medical marijuana workers all over CA lose their jobs. Watch crime go up all over CA. Watch less Democrats vote all over CA. Obama is not only taking away rights, illegally interfering with state law, and hurting himself; but, he is hurting current elected Democrats and Democrats that are going to run for office all over CA in 2012.

 

[Keith and stuff]

everyone should call the cali governor and ask them to please protect the ill medical patients and arrest the federal terrorists.

No way I see that happening, the current Democratic governor doesn't even support medical marijuana in CA. Heck, Arnold was better on marijuana issues...

If I was one of those wild-eyed conspiracy theorists I'd make up a conspiracy about how Obama is a plant by Republicans to get Republicans elected to state and national offices all across the nation for years to come. Maybe Republicans realized that Bush hurt the GOP brand so much in the US that they only way to bring the Republicans back into power was to get Obama elected and make him look so bad, over and over again, that he hurts the Democrat brand just as much and Republicans get back power...

 

[cornbread]

*Bites the hook*

Well, if that's your personal opinion, just don't use it.

aint that the damn truth,do your own thing,and let me do mine.

 

[cornbread]

how can the federal government tell its citizen that they are breaking the law for growing,smoking saleing marijuana,when they grow it there self,and send it to patences,its time for the people to rise up in this country,and tell the government,we are the people and we run this country,im facing up to 30 years in prison in tennessee for growing,i go to trial oct,26th,its all bullshit

 

[squarepusher]

of course its going to increase crime. Right now, a medical patient can goto a local shop to buy their goods. If they can't get it there, it will be black market, shady alley cash transactions, ripe for crime.

 

[Noob]

Probably because the drug cartels are losing money to the legal medical marijuana industry.

 

[gb13]

What you really need is some states' rights. You ever consider providing these shops with complimentary posters which read, 'Closed due to a lack of federal respect for the will of the California populace. Will return when Ron Paul is president of the United States'?

That's a really great idea. It might require some face-to-face education of dispensary owners. It would be wise to come equipped with some educational materials for them to read, and some links to prominent Ron Paul sites/videos. Maybe we could even get some "for liberty" DVDs to donate to that cause.

 

[LibForestPaul]

Probably because the drug cartels are losing money to the legal medical marijuana industry.

hmmm, cia funding in danger?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

From yesterday:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justic...nia-over-medical-marijuana-as-feds-crack-down

Showdown in California over medical marijuana, as feds crack down

Four US Attorneys in California said Friday they are targeting growers and distributors who use California's medical marijuana law as a cover to engage in illegal drug trafficking.

By Daniel B. Wood, Staff writer / October 7, 2011
Los Angeles

Reefer wars are reigniting in California, and the US Justice Department is leading the charge.

Four US Attorneys based in California said Friday they will step up prosecution of marijuana growers and pot dispensaries suspected of drug trafficking outside the confines of the state's medical marijuana law.

Production and sale of marijuana are federal crimes, but the Obama administration said two years ago that it would not go after patients with marijuana prescriptions or dispensaries in states where marijuana is legal for medicinal use. California and 15 other states have such laws.
...
At a press conference Friday at the federal courthouse in Sacramento, four US Attorneys outlined a new enforcement effort that will take effect statewide. The three key components are:

• Pursue civil lawsuits to seize property involved in drug trafficking.

• Send warning letters to owners and lienholders of properties where illegal marijuana sales are suspected of taking place.

• Target commercial marijuana activities by filing criminal charges. In the past two weeks, such cases have been filed in US district courts in Los Angeles, San Diego, Sacramento, and Fresno.