Obama releases birth certificate!

[dbill27]

Lol

Lol

 

[Legend1104]

Savage already said yesterday on his show that it means nothing because "the government can easily forge a birth certificate." it will never stop.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Lol

Exactly.

 

[dbill27]

Savage already said yesterday on his show that it means nothing because "the government can easily forge a birth certificate." it will never stop.

Exactly, so if your never going to believe anything that disproves your argument then there is no point. Why keep asking why something hasn't been released if you aren't going to believe it when it is released?

 

[Sola_Fide]

The Official Birth Certificate


SOURCE:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Yeah! Trump lost his main issue now. His candidacy is dead.

 

[S.Shorland]

He still comes from a lineage of CIA people though.

 

[jmdrake]

If Obama actually releases the real birth certificate, no one will listen to the birthers anyway. They can join the flat earthers.

sofia doesn't represent the "birther" movement.

^This

And here it is:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate

Trump's campaign is toast. (Unless die hards reward him for making the emperor blink). And hopefully the arguments at RPF over this will come to an end. After all Ron Paul isn't involved in this one way or another.

Now if someone could get the FBI to release certain phone records from April 2001......

 

[dbill27]

Yeah! Trump lost his main issue now. His candidacy is dead.

Wonder, if trumps investigators that don't exist are the ones who found it lol?

 

[angelatc]

Called it, nothing is good enough for the birthers.

There won't be a consensus among experts, either. For every person who says the birth certificate is real, they'll be another one who says that it is forged.

 

[S.Shorland]

Everytime Trump goes on television from now until the day he dies,he will be greeted with 'Aloha'.

 

[pcosmar]

Meh,,

At least it is a distraction that Dr. Paul won't have to deal with. and he can focus on dismembering him on his record.

 

[angelatc]

Yeah! Trump lost his main issue now. His candidacy is dead.

He's still got the school records to investigate. I still wonder why Obama didn't release the damned thing as a matter of routine?

 

[TXcarlosTX]

good! now they can stop asking ron about it. lets move on

 

[Romulus]

There won't be a consensus among experts, either. For every person who says the birth certificate is real, they'll be another one who says that it is forged.

Yep it will continue to be a worthless, distracting controversy with no end... I guess there's a shred of hope that it will proved to be fake and we can repeal everything, but that isnt likely to happen in this day and age.

 

[Stary Hickory]

No this has to be good enough and let it be that. There is nothign more that can reasonably be done or should be done. Why it took this amount of turmoil for Obama to simply show compliance with the Constitution is beyond me. Two million dollars fighting this why? Utterly ridiculous..I guess it was pure ego.

 

[jmdrake]

why should we believe it? Until an independent expert on the matter can review the document, this changes nothing.

The part about it not being verified is true. But I assume experts (and non experts) are attempting to verify this as we speak. For instance people are probably trying to research the attending physician. I assume Obama knew this and wouldn't have released it if the information was not rock solid. So something has indeed changed. The burden of proof has shifted back to the birthers. (And yes I know there are people who don't understand how burden shifting works in the law and think the burden was always on the birthers, but that's not true). So for me this is now a total non issue (and it never was a big one) until someone comes up with a plausible rebuttal.

 

[erowe1]

why should we believe it? Until an independent expert on the matter can review the document, this changes nothing.

And even after multiple independent experts review it and confirm its genuineness, it still won't change anything, because no matter how many hoops he jumps through, there will still be a handful of self-proclaimed internet-educated "independent experts" who will think it's fake, and who will continue to set the bar just beyond whatever Obama has done. These are people who somehow manage to interpret the words "natural born citizen" in the Constitution as though they mean "someone who has done whatever arbitrary thing I decide he must do to prove to my satisfaction that he's a natural born citizen."

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Trump is giving a victory speech.

 

[angelatc]

Yep it will continue to be a worthless, distracting controversy with no end... I guess there's a shred of hope that it will proved to be fake and we can repeal everything, but that isnt likely to happen in this day and age.

It could have "FAKE" stamped across it and the media would ignore it anyway. You should check out his draft registration card. I'm neither a birther nor a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe that Obama "forgot" to fill out that mandatory registration thing, and his team went back and tried to "fix" it years later. I know I don't think like most people do, but I could forgive a kid who didn't sign up. I can't forgive a man who won't accept responsibility for his actions.

 

[dbill27]

Trump is taking credit for getting rid of this issue, good god.