Obama plans a draft-Biden knows it

Well if Obama was to simply order most of you young patriots into camps or worse, that would look bad.

So let's have a false flag terrorist attack, nuke a city, and send you all to a meat grinder somewhere in the middle east.

They get their martial law and total control, you all get killed by Habib who will gouge your eyes out and screw the sockets.


Unless they threw a war and nobody showed up.

But I think it will be easier to fight a war on our own streets rather than one on a street in Assramistan.
 
I am not so sure of the outrage. FDR passed a draft in 1940-an election year-before the USA was even at war.

Contrast this to Canada and Australia-already at war in 1939-but no draft until 1943.

and Pelosi and Reid was support anything a President Obama (or a President McCain) would propose so long as the pork was there.

It was a differnt kind of time in the FDR days....I don't think a draft would be popular....everyone chould burn thier draft cards.
 
It was a differnt kind of time in the FDR days....I don't think a draft would be popular....everyone chould burn thier draft cards.
We are already into 7 years of war and for the most part the American people are tired of it. A draft would not be popular.
 
Amendment XIII

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
 
Having the chance to fight for your country, to promote peace and democracy around the world, is not slavery. Not many people in the world have a chance at such glory.
 
Trying to instate a draft would only be a disaster for the feds. They'd have to be fools to try it.
 
Having the chance to fight for your country, to promote peace and democracy around the world, is not slavery. Not many people in the world have a chance at such glory.

Which is a great argument for a voluntary armed forces providing that opportunity. :rolleyes:
I'm almost certain you're being sarcastic...but just in case, I had to respond. ;)
 
Trying to instate a draft would only be a disaster for the feds. They'd have to be fools to try it.

Your honour, men and women of the jury, I present in evidence: the last 8 years of global politics.

And in doing so, I rest my case.
 
What it comes down to is that you cannot FORCE someone into patriotism - because then it becomes totalitarian rule. You cannot TRICK someone into patriotism, you cannot INTIMIDATE someone into patriotism.

You have to SHOW people that your country and its ideals are worth standing up for. As leaders, you have to lead by example - something the leaders of the USA and Great Britain have made a mockery of over this last decade.

I'm coming around to the idea that the real crisis of confidence that the world is currently suffering from isn't in our financial markets, its in our governments.

They are losing sight of the ideals of the countries whose people elected them to represent their interests - they are styling themselves after overlords rather than public servants, conducting backroom business out of the public eye to further political agendas that do not serve the public.

Whether you want to subscribe to conspiracy theories on this point, the reality remains unchanged - public representatives aren't representing the public, because they are buying into the idea that politicians occupy a higher social strata than the people who elect them.

At this point, a draft would be disastrous, especially with all of the talk about scaling back on war and bringing troops home. The only people you'd find this would be popular with is (some) politicians; I doubt the armed forces would thrill at the idea that while they are being told there's no real reason for them to be in Iraq, we're going to extend their stay with a massive influx of fresh meat who doesn't want to be there; and the people would balk at the idea that suddenly heading out to the sandbox is "the duty of every good citizen".

If - and that's still an if at this point - Obama actually believes that he can cajole/trick/intimidate/force anyone to do this, he is as deluded and isolated from reality as Bush ever was.
 
forced National Slavery/Service would be popular with:
Veterans groups (American Legion has always pushed for a draft)
Social welfare groups (In Australia the Salvation Army wants forced National Service)
Non profit nursing homes (why pay someone to clean up the shit when free slave labor is available)
Schools - public and private (free teacher aides)
Libraries ( free pages)
Old people (free slave labor to cut the lawn)
the MSM (Time is pushing for this)
The Israel lobby (Israelis all serve, why shouldn't Americans)
ACORN No need to pay the registers/grave stone readers

and it goes on and on

Just remember the average person is so dumb that they believed McCain was the anti-war candidate in the NH primary
 
obama will be implementing MANDATORY national service....this includes military time....it requires people ages 13-65 to participate in national service...fuck u obama
 
Having the courage to refuse to fight in immoral and/or unconstitutional "wars" is quite another matter, I believe. No need to "dodge" the ball if they're not allowed to hit you with it, if you merely 'take your stand' and refuse to VOLUNTEER!

1. Mr. A receives a "draft notice" and is told to report on a certain date to a certain place where he receives his physical and mental tests...then he is classified with a number indicating whether he is A1(first called).

2. Mr. A is told that he is to report for "induction" into the military and to appear at a certain military base for that purpose on a date specified.

3. By "LAW" he must appear there...or a warrant for his arrest will be issued.

4. Assuming he reports as directed he will have another brief physical and tests and then is told to "line up on the yellow line (painted on the floor)

5. A Recruiting Officer will then tell all those "joining the army (or whatever) to take one step forward... (Oh, oh, THOSE WHO DID THIS JUST "VOLUNTEERED!")This is done so that no one can "legally" claim they were "forced into involuntary servitude!"

"RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR ALLEGIANCE." (almost everyone does!...thinking it must be REQUIRED!): "I, (name) do solemnly swear that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America and will defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and will obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over me, so help me God."

6. Those who "voluntarily" stepped forward CANNOT NOW CLAIM THEY WERE "DRAFTED"...they stepped forward voluntarily and took the Oath voluntarily!

7. Assume Mr. B was smarter than Mr. A and HE DID NOT STEP FORWARD ANDTHEREFORE DID NOT TAKE THE OATH OF ALLEGIANCE. (the recruiter will probably say something like this: "what's the matter with you, don't you know what' step forward' means?" Mr. B responds, "sure I do, but I AM NOT VOLUNTEERING TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY...If you want me you must 'take me' against my will by force!" 8. All of those who "volunteered" will now be excused from the room...and the Mr. B will be cajoled with persuasive arguments...at first...then, when nothing works to change his mind he will be called names and insulted, possibly even assaulted by one or more military people present there as witnesses.

9. IF Mr. B does not weaken, stands his ground, eventually the tormentors will give up and have him arrested on some charge. However, there is NO lawful way that they can MAKE him go into the military...because of the Constitutional prohibition against "involuntary servitude"...which is why NO ONE IS TRULY EVER "DRAFTED" AND MUST BE "SEDUCED " INTO VOLUNTEERING!

If the recruiter says "I order you by the authority of the United States Government" then respond: "Which clause of the Constitution gives you, a military officer, to order me, a civilian?" Another thing to say is: "Am I free to go?" If the recruiter says "Yes" - then obviously leave. If the recruiter says "No" then say: "Am I under arrest?" "Am I your prisoner?" "Am I kidnapped?" "If I'm not free, then what am I?" and again, keep repeating the question. Another thing to say is: "I want an attorney."

Another thing to say is, of course, *nothing* at all. I think I would go with "Am I free to go?" because if you get to "Yes" then you can leave and he would look bad ordering an arrest.

If you ask the question three times and don't get a yes or no, then say, "Well I must be free to go, because I asked you three times and you won't tell me I'm not."

Then I would slowly turn around and leave, and if he keeps trying to interact I would just keep repeating the question. === Here's an excerpt from a book:

The Army induction officer instructed the draftees to "take one step forward" as their names were called, and said that step would signify their induction into the Army. When reluctant Willie's name was called, he answered present, but did not step forward. After the ceremony, he went home instead of to camp. When the MP's came for him, he went to court for a writ of habeas corpus to retain his freedom. "The officer himself," Willie argued, "said the step forward is what would make me a soldier. As I didn't take the step, I'm still a civilian and the Army has no claim on me." Counsel for the Army replied, "The Army isn't being run by childish games. Willie and a hundred others appeared to be inducted, and he was inducted before the whole group as any fool there could plainly see."

Willie retained his civilian status. The court ruled that the draft law required some definite ceremony to transform a civilian into a soldier. As the Army decided to have one step forward constitute the ceremony, and Willie didn't take the step, he wasn't a soldier. U.S. Court of Appeals, 1954
 
Cold, hungry, and homeless you would be surprised how quickly people will welcome public service even if it means military service.

With Paulson thumbing his nose at a whole legion of blue collar workers in the auto industry we are going to see massive layoffs if things don't change soon. These are the types of folks they are wanting to utilize. Certainly not the ones they are protecting with their bailout....
 
Having the chance to fight for your country, to promote peace and democracy around the world, is not slavery. Not many people in the world have a chance at such glory.

WTF? They wont get me or my kids, unless they want to serve on their own. and Glory?
 
it will have nothing to do with Iraq.

more like CCC or Hitler Youth

it's in the book of incoming Chief of staff Emanuel, and potential defense sect is pro-draft.
 
On the upside, it will be absolutely hilarious when all the misinformed, "peace and love" treehuggers realize they voted in an elitist scumbag who truly has no care for them whatsoever. A true socialist. I can't wait to be drafted for the ignorance of my fellow Americans.

I really do not know what I would do if this were to happen. A draft...ugh! Everyone needs to fake a disability, because they'll be no coming back for quite some time if you leave. No chance to redeem the country if you are gone (not when you're dead either I guess). Not until Jimmy Carter the Second comes around. lol. Maybe...just maybe...I will have to leave this country. Go to Mexico, fly to Switzerland and stay there. At least I'll still have a gun and some land for myself. That'll be a sad...sad day. I never want to see slavery enacted in my lifetime.

EDIT: SOMEHOW WE MUST GET RID OF THESE ANNOYING OBAMA ADS! By me saying this, I think I've caused them to be there for another few days. lol.
 
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